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Old 04-21-2008, 10:54 PM   #91 (permalink)
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because stats don't come anywhere close to telling the story in the minors. Look at Roger Clemens' stats while he rehabbed in the minors. Look at Rick Ankiel's stats when he first got called to the minors in Rookie League and A ball after he couldn't the ocean in the NL playoffs.

And to that, it's not even been two years since he was drafted. How is it possible to make such an early assumption as to a bust or being an underachiever?


Because that's what i think, i'm allowed to have a opinion
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:54 PM   #92 (permalink)
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overreacted might be an understatement.
let's recall that you are the one that only has one somewhat worthy response to this thread in that his stats obviously don't show what the scouts see.

Let's also recall you are the one that flipped BPV off before he started his posts.

No one's overreacting, we're just calling you out on this absurdness.
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Because that's what i think, i'm allowed to have a opinion
it's fine to have that opinion, but it's another to state as fact he's an underachiever even though he's not been a pro for two years and he's already in the big leagues.
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and finally, the only reason people are getting up in arms is that all of your statements throw conventional baseball wisdom (or even Billy Beane/Bill James wisdom) out the window.
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it's fine to have that opinion, but it's another to state as fact he's an underachiever even though he's not been a pro for two years and he's already in the big leagues.
He'll be sent down soon.
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He'll be sent down soon.
That explains why they cut Hideo Nomo.
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I'm not the only person in the world that believes Hochevar is overrated, in fact i would say over 75% of people that know something about minor league baseball would think the same.
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I'm not the only person in the world that believes Hochevar is overrated, in fact i would say over 75% of people that know something about minor league baseball would think the same.
show me those people.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:07 PM   #99 (permalink)
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The Most Overrated Pitching Prospects in All of Baseball | 2008 Prospect Preview Series

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i'll dig up some more later
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If he's so good why isn't his name on this list?Project Prospect - Top 25 Pitchers Under 25
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that's one horrific way of determining how good a guy is or isn't.

He got called up from AA to AAA and his numbers got worse? Go figure. He faces better talent and his numbers aren't so good. That's obviously going to happen. He sure gave up a lot of homers yesterday didn't he?
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where's his name?

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good job of changing the topic.

all along I've said he's not done enough one or the other. you said he's underachieving.

You are still avoiding the big question.
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good job of changing the topic.

all along I've said he's not done enough one or the other. you said he's underachieving.

You are still avoiding the big question.
How am i changing the subject, you told me to show you the people.
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