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04-21-2008, 04:59 PM
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| Damn, I think we found someone worse than NEW COACH | 
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04-21-2008, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA  You guys are so ignorant it's not even funny. I started this thread by saying that i think he will be a bust and that i think he's overrated, and all of you guys started attacking me for having an opinion. You guys haven't proved anything except for that ya'll are huge homers and really no nothing about baseball. | I'm not going out of my way to prove what I know of baseball, but you have certainly made a lot of statements that hint at your knowing nothing about the game.
Homerism is not in any way, shape or form my MO. | |
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04-21-2008, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol and you said he has underachieved thus far.
Many others pointed out why this absurdity was simply too premature or just plain wrong.
Most "star" prospects underachieve at this point in their careers. Hochevar has performed about as expected for a guy with his talent. You're making him out to be the next Van Poppel. He's not.
He throws hard, locates it relatively well and has some wicked 'stuff.' He might not turn into the next Pedro, but it won't be because of lack of talent. | I said Hochevar would be a number 2 or 3 guy in the rotation, nothing more nothing less. He does have good stuff be his accuracy is inconsistent and he gives up a ton of HRs, therefore i could see him being good but not great.
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04-21-2008, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA You guys are so ignorant it's not even funny. I started this thread by saying that i think he will be a bust and that i think he's overrated, and all of you guys started attacking me for having an opinion. You guys haven't proved anything except for that ya'll are huge homers and really no nothing about baseball. |  | |
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04-21-2008, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA I said Hochevar would be a number 2 or 3 guy in the rotation, nothing more nothing less. He does have good stuff be his accuracy is inconsistent and he gives up a ton of HRs, therefore i could see him being good but not great. | Does that qualify as being a bust? | |
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04-21-2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA I said Hochevar would be a number 2 or 3 guy in the rotation, nothing more nothing less. He does have good stuff be his accuracy is inconsistent and he gives up a ton of HRs, therefore i could see him being good but not great. | JSantana's achilles heel is the long ball, but I'm going to go ahead and keep him in the great category, if that's OK. In fact, you might be surprised by those giving up lots of long balls. Many were all time greats or are some of the better pitchers in the game today. | |
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04-21-2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by justingroves Does that qualify as being a bust? | Yes, because you don't spend your #1 draft pick on a #2 or 3 guy, you want to get your Ace.
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04-21-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by justingroves | I was rushing when i said no nothing. 
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04-21-2008, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA I said Hochevar would be a number 2 or 3 guy in the rotation, nothing more nothing less. He does have good stuff be his accuracy is inconsistent and he gives up a ton of HRs, therefore i could see him being good but not great. | Hochevar definitely has #1 type pitches. He might not ever reach his potential, but, again, it won't be due to his talent level. | |
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04-21-2008, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol Hochevar definitely has #1 type pitches. He might not ever reach his potential, but, again, it won't be due to his talent level. | It's Rod Delmonico's fault | |
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04-21-2008, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by justingroves It's Rod Delmonico's fault | nah, it's us. We're homers. | |
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04-21-2008, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol nah, it's us. We're homers. | 
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04-21-2008, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA | that's more like the speed I've been expecting from you: conversing with pictures. Very well said I might add. | |
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04-21-2008, 05:24 PM
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| i'm sorry i don't spend all my time reading this thread like you.
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04-21-2008, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA i'm sorry i don't spend all my time reading this thread like you. | could you put this one into picture form for me, I'm having a hard time understanding what you're trying to say. | |
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