Hochevar to start for Royals

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

it's awfully hard to build around a single pitcher. If he could bring serious value in the form of several position players, probably gotta go that route. Otherwise, you have to add other pitching talent and follow the Braves route to winning.

If Hochevar is Smoltz, who is waiting in the wings for the Royals to be Steve Avery, Tom Glavine and Pete Smith?

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

If Hochevar is Smoltz, who is waiting in the wings for the Royals to be Steve Avery, Tom Glavine and Pete Smith?

I don't think they have him. They could make a deal for one of the studs in a couple of seasons, a la Maddux, and have a strong 1-2 punch, but that will take a financial commitment that they're likely unwilling to make.

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

I don't think they have him. They could make a deal for one of the studs in a couple of seasons, a la Maddux, and have a strong 1-2 punch, but that will take a financial commitment that they're likely unwilling to make.

which is why if I were GM, Hochevar would be traded for maximum value, a la Nick Swisher and Dan Haren. It's a very risky gamble, but 5-6 potential great prospects for two stars is a better investment.

[KCVolLaw]

I have a feeling Hochevar is gone as soon as the time comes. We've traded Dye, Beltran, etc. when we couldn't afford them. the only guy we've ever kept is Sweeney. We saw how that turned out.

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by therealUT

Anyone who is already declaring him a bust or overrated, knows absolutely nothing about baseball. Tell me, how did Jake Peavy do his first six games in the Bigs? Hmm...he surrended 23 runs over 31 innings. I guess he was a bust and was overrated...

Zambrano gave up seven runs in his first four innings in the Bigs.

Who are you talking to?

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

ok name one player, a pitcher preferably who you can decide has underachieved in just one and half years of playing professional baseball.

What has he done to prove me wrong?

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

What has he done to prove me wrong?

he threw about 20 wicked sinkers and 10 nasty changeups in the process of striking out over 1 per inning in his lone big league appearance.

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

he threw about 20 wicked sinkers and 10 nasty changeups in the process of striking out over 1 per inning in his lone big league appearance.

[KCVolLaw]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

If you don't think that is a good outing for a prospect's 2nd MLB start with a below average team, then you do not know baseball. Keep living in baseball ignorance.

[VOLNBAMA]

i was laughing at the fact he said 20 wicked sinkers and 10 nasty changeups.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

so, apparently combined with the nothing you know of baseball, you also missed the performance.

I'm trying to think of a good comparison for you, but am struggling at the moment. Maybe NewCoach.

[VOLNBAMA]

I would say at best that Hochevar will be a #2 or 3 guy in the rotation, nothing better.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

I would say at best that Hochevar will be a #2 or 3 guy in the rotation, nothing better.

given what you've proven that you don't know, you'd be just as well served to talk about knitting for the remainder of the thread.

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

given what you've proven that you don't know, you'd be just as well served to talk about knitting for the remainder of the thread.

You guys are so ignorant it's not even funny. I started this thread by saying that i think he will be a bust and that i think he's overrated, and all of you guys started attacking me for having an opinion. You guys haven't proved anything except for that ya'll are huge homers and really know nothing about baseball.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

You guys are so ignorant it's not even funny. I started this thread by saying that i think he will be a bust and that i think he's overrated, and all of you guys started attacking me for having an opinion.

and you said he has underachieved thus far.

Many others pointed out why this absurdity was simply too premature or just plain wrong.

Most "star" prospects underachieve at this point in their careers. Hochevar has performed about as expected for a guy with his talent. You're making him out to be the next Van Poppel. He's not.

He throws hard, locates it relatively well and has some wicked 'stuff.' He might not turn into the next Pedro, but it won't be because of lack of talent.