Will Locante

[VolDoc11]

females will usually stop growing between the ages of 14-18, males can continue to grow sometimes into their early 20s. each person is different, I respect ballsmacks opinion I dont agree with it simply because I see this everyday and it is well known within the medical profession that males can grow into 20plus yrs old and as he states that has been his experience . Just as an example of an athlete who grew in college was Orel Herschiser pretty famous pitcher went in to college 5-10 can out 6-5, its in his book. The real purpose of this thread was say what a stick of dynamite this kid is and to reaffirm the rest of the upcoming pitching recruits I think they will all bring some good stuff to the table.

[ballsmack]

Originally Posted by TheHill09

where in the world are you getting this info? I was 5'10 142 pounds in sophomore year of HS and now im a senior 6'1 175. My mom is 5'2 and my dad is 5'11 and I am definately still growing. Guys grow until they are like 24.

You're Mom is an inch taller than the cut-off however, I was referring to Moms that are 5'1" or below. But I guess I did say, 5'1" or so. You were also 5'10" at the beginning of your sophomore year I bet as oppose to the end. If you were 5'10" at the END of your sophomore year you were probably done growing. I don't agree that (as a rule) guys grow until they are 24. That is just not the case I'm afraid. But I do understand your point and I'm not trying to be difficult, I just haven't experienced anyone growing after about mid-way through their sophomore year at the age of 16. I could be all washed up on this theory as well so don't think I am not flexible in my thinking here. Sorry to ask so many questions.

Perhaps VolDoc11 can answer a question: If someone (male) were to be 5'9" or so at sophomore age and had x-rays and the x-rays showed the growth plates were fused would that person have any chance of growing more? Is there an x-ray that one can ask for from an Ortho specialist that could shed light on whether or not a kid would grow more? And is that a common request from a parent? to see if their kid will grow more? I can see a parent getting pretty nervous about the results of such an x-ray.

[VolDoc11]

No they will not once the plates are closed growth in the bone will stop, however, some males, those in late puberty for instance, their growth plates are not closed and will grow. not all males growth plates close at 16 that is what I have been trying to tell you. its not that your observation has been totally incorrect, its just you are lumping all the kids into the same pot, some boys stop ,others will continue to grow, it depends on when the plates close and that will depend on when certain hormones have reached certain levels for a certain amount of time... then you see facial hair...... starts to gain muscle mass...for some males it can be as young as 12 others it may not be until they are older and then everywhere in between. Understand some males mature physically at different times thats all.

[ballsmack]

Originally Posted by VolDoc11

No they will not once the plates are closed growth in the bone will stop, however, some males, those in late puberty for instance, their growth plates are not closed and will grow. not all males growth plates close at 16 that is what I have been trying to tell you. its not that your observation has been totally incorrect, its just you are lumping all the kids into the same pot, some boys stop ,others will continue to grow, it depends on when the plates close and that will depend on when certain hormones have reached certain levels for a certain amount of time... then you see facial hair...... starts to gain muscle mass...for some males it can be as young as 12 others it may not be until they are older and then everywhere in between. Understand some males mature physically at different times thats all.

Is there an x-ray that one can ask for from an Ortho specialist that could shed light on whether or not a kid would grow more? And is that a common request from a parent? to see if their kid will grow more?

[VolDoc11]

some parents may get nervous about such an xray but they should just accept it. If that happens it is what it is. There have been many athletes who have been under 6 ft tall ...... in the pros.... and its sad when coaches just look at stature.... I think it usually boils down to talent and heart.. . I have seen big kids that have been missing one or both of those attributes, . So parents whose child has one of those xrays but has talent and heart and speed, should not loose heart, I would put that kid up against a bigger kid any day. Size is not the common denominator to athletic prowess ....its speed ... I have seen that too many times. So parents who are dismayed because the xray shows closed growth plates . they need to get over it. there is always Med school.

[VolDoc11]

yes the xray would be of the wrist and long bone of the arm or leg yes it is a common request most parents especially those who have been grooming their child for athletics will request this.

[VolDoc11]

yes there are certain xrays wrist and long bones where the growth plates are located, this is a common request especially if they are grooming the child for athletics

[ballsmack]

Originally Posted by VolDoc11

yes there are certain xrays wrist and long bones where the growth plates are located, this is a common request especially if they are grooming the child for athletics

Ok, that makes sense. If I went to the Ortho people and requested a follow up to an old ankle injury as far as an x-ray, would that show anything as far as growth plates or does it depend on the angle of the x-ray?

[VolDoc11]

Sometimes the angle can matter because of superimposition of solid structure over the plate, but the tech would have to be a complete moron to miss that and for the most part that usually does not happen. But if you went in I am sure that we would see plates that are fused and probably indisiguishable from the surrounding bone.

[VolDoc11]

We are filling this poor kids site with our consultation... dont worry you wont get a bill.

[ballsmack]

Originally Posted by VolDoc11

We are filling this poor kids site with our consultation... dont worry you wont get a bill.

LOL, yea, I know...sorry. You have answered my questions and I appreciate it. Now back to VOLNATION stuff. Thanks again!

[ballsmack]

Does anyone know if girls (softball) have 11.7 scholorships like the guys do for baseball? Also, do girls tend to stop growing at their freshman year? I guess I should ask my local trainer but he is not very reliable. I find the people on this message board are far more informed about stuff so I'd prefer to ask you guys out here. Some trainers are good, some are great, and some are not so great as is the case with mine. Anyway, I heard U of Tennessee has great trainers and in fact some of the best around....thanks for putting up with so many questions you guys.

[VolDoc11]

Usually once females start their menstrual cycle they are pretty much done growing this once again varies from child to child. Dont know for sure about the 11.7 it may be less than that.

[The Dude]

Edit: NCAA DI softball teams get 12 scholarships, which can be divided.