Sonny Gray.........SHS ace.

[utfantilidie]

Originally Posted by matts42012volfan

i have played him and he is now throwing between 96-98 mph

I'll stick with 92 which is extremely fast for a high school pitcher.

[VolDoc11]

I saw this kid in Oklahoma, did great the first inning, never got out of the 3rd, Texas scored 4 or 6 runs on him that inning, he was getting Jacked, he was throwing 94-95 and man were those balls flying far and deep,he was going up against great talent from top to bottom,little different in HS ball, much easier to get strikeouts at that level. However he throws hard, good player,but the next level of kids do catch up to his speed quick. But would still be a great addition to any team.

[utfantilidie]

Originally Posted by VolDoc11

I saw this kid in Oklahoma, did great the first inning, never got out of the 3rd, Texas scored 4 or 6 runs on him that inning, he was getting Jacked, he was throwing 94-95 and man were those balls flying far and deep,he was going up against great talent from top to bottom,little different in HS ball, much easier to get strikeouts at that level. However he throws hard, good player,but the next level of kids do catch up to his speed quick. But would still be a great addition to any team.

Of course the wooden bats in the pros are a lot harder to get bat speed on .

[VolDoc11]

that is true, however in the pros the overall power and bat speed is greater with the hitters because they are stronger and seasoned, the weight of wood is usually not a real factor ,I have several patients/friends who are former pros and we spoke of this before, it is true he will do well at what ever level he plays, he is a good player but other than throwing fast his off speeds were not that impressive to me simply because his curve and change were not that dramatically different than his fastball in that game, he is a rt handed pitcher and there are a bunch of right handed pitchers that throw in the 90s, I saw them all summer long, even at the hs level, also remember most right handed pitchers in the pros throw in the 90s and they get yacked alot, give me a sneeky lefty any day. or someone who varies his speed and I will show you someone who will get alot of strikeouts, at the D1 level.... he strikes out alot of kids in middle tn hs because the teams dont have all D1 talent, when they did he did not do as well, throwing hard is great but I would rather have someone who knows how to pitch.than some one who just throws hard it would be great to have both and maybe this kid does but not in that game that I saw and all pitchers have bad games, I realize that, which only reaffirmed his being a kid that has tremendous potential like almost every kid that was in Oklahoma, not really any better than any other kid that made it to that level . I saw a kid from Arizona, threw in the high 80s, lefty, was kicking everyones butt, his off speeds were perfect and when he threw his 88 mph fast ball it looked like 95 batters were stumbling all over themselves .. now Gray will be going to Vandy he will learn to pitch and it is true you cant coach a 95 mph fastball but without knowing how to pitch ,,well I think we know what happens at the D1 level you cant blow it by everyone....just my opinion

[tennvols1198]

they also have about 6 committed pitchers and one of them is 6' 8" and throws mid 90's

[utfantilidie]

Originally Posted by VolDoc11

that is true, however in the pros the overall power and bat speed is greater with the hitters because they are stronger and seasoned, the weight of wood is usually not a real factor ,I have several patients/friends who are former pros and we spoke of this before, it is true he will do well at what ever level he plays, he is a good player but other than throwing fast his off speeds were not that impressive to me simply because his curve and change were not that dramatically different than his fastball in that game, he is a rt handed pitcher and there are a bunch of right handed pitchers that throw in the 90s, I saw them all summer long, even at the hs level, also remember most right handed pitchers in the pros throw in the 90s and they get yacked alot, give me a sneeky lefty any day. or someone who varies his speed and I will show you someone who will get alot of strikeouts, at the D1 level.... he strikes out alot of kids in middle tn hs because the teams dont have all D1 talent, when they did he did not do as well, throwing hard is great but I would rather have someone who knows how to pitch.than some one who just throws hard it would be great to have both and maybe this kid does but not in that game that I saw and all pitchers have bad games, I realize that, which only reaffirmed his being a kid that has tremendous potential like almost every kid that was in Oklahoma, not really any better than any other kid that made it to that level . I saw a kid from Arizona, threw in the high 80s, lefty, was kicking everyones butt, his off speeds were perfect and when he threw his 88 mph fast ball it looked like 95 batters were stumbling all over themselves .. now Gray will be going to Vandy he will learn to pitch and it is true you cant coach a 95 mph fastball but without knowing how to pitch ,,well I think we know what happens at the D1 level you cant blow it by everyone....just my opinion

I see your point. Having been a pitcher for 10 years , high school, summer ball, didn't follow up on the one junior college that recruited me pretty good. Having a great curve ball and or change up really improves a fast ball.I had only a fastball I learned to place pretty good but every once in a while, a good hitter gets up there and you can't get it past him. I think Sonny will learn a lot at Vandy. Considering Tennessee doesn't have the population a lot of other states have,they hold their on when it comes to sports, IMO.

[llabesab7]

Originally Posted by utfantilidie

He is going to Vandy. Too bad for us.I also know he went to a Nike camp with about 35 other QB's and he was the shortest guy there and/so he gave up his college football ambitions.

he was short but he was the best qb there!

[VOLNBAMA]

I doubt that.