New Commit 5/12/12

[InTheShadows]

Originally Posted by ReebaVol

Ok that review is a little messy. However, he said his change up has 11/5 spin. Not curve ball. This just means his change up cuts toward a righty and that is completely normal for a right handed pitcher.

+1 never said anything about a curve. the review is still plenty strange. never heard of a long and quick delivery.

[BruinVol]

Originally Posted by InTheShadows

+1 never said anything about a curve. the review is still plenty strange. never heard of a long and quick delivery.

Long with the hand path but quick at the top. Its rare but possible

[Recoil]

Originally Posted by ReebaVol

Ok that review is a little messy. However, he said his change up has 11/5 spin. Not curve ball. This just means his change up cuts toward a righty and that is completely normal for a right handed pitcher.

Please don't take my correction as harsh sarcasm, but 'cut' indicates a ball that runs away from a righty (from a right handed pitcher).

Fade is to describe a change up that falls away from a lefty and in to a righty.

The truth is, a good pitcher learns or is taught how to throw a truly straight change and not some stock pitch that ultimately drifts down and into the hitter (regardless of which side of the plate).

I got paid to play so I'm a bit testy on stuff like this!

[bluetick2]

[QUOTE=beavbullvol;6725670]I typically don't interject on these things, but whoever wrote this report doesn't have the slightest clue about evaluating a pitcher.

Long and quick? That's like saying Kevin Gregg and David Robertson have identical throwing motions.

11/5 spin? That's a lefty breaking ball. If he's really spinning a 11/5 hook, somebody taught him the Dice-K Gyro-ball. Righty spin is 1/7 (think about it).

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[whocaresgobobcats]

Originally Posted by ReebaVol

Ok that review is a little messy. However, he said his change up has 11/5 spin. Not curve ball. This just means his change up cuts toward a righty and that is completely normal for a right handed pitcher.

Not really. You don't describe changes like that. Not sure what that person as trying to do there.

[BigOrange51]

Originally Posted by ReebaVol

Ok that review is a little messy. However, he said his change up has 11/5 spin. Not curve ball. This just means his change up cuts toward a righty and that is completely normal for a right handed pitcher.

Yea. In reality the term 11/5 or 1/7 etc. is used very rarely and I can't even say with certainty from what perspective the terminology derives. Obviously from the pitchers perspective an 11/5 CB is a 1/7 CB as viewed from behind home plate. Point being, its irrelevant really from which perspective, because either one means the same thing. Breaking stuff moves glove side. Period. No need to think about it that hard.

Also, you're correct that he said change up and I'm pretty sure no human can achieve that kind of spin on a change up, especially from that arm slot. 10/4 from dead sidearm is even hard for me to imagine.

[GoVols2003]

Originally Posted by chattavol420

no offense, but is this the proper place to put a baseball committ. every time I see we got a new committ thread I open it hoping for a highly touted dt or rb. Getting a pitcher doesn't exactly make things that much more exciting

No offense, but I put in the Baseball forum.