NCAA, MLB talking about increasing scholarships

[whocaresgobobcats]

I am a huge fan of this proposal and really hope this works out. I'm glad MLB invests so much time and money into amateur baseball; it will really help the game.

NCAA, MLB in talks for partnership to help college baseball - CBSSports

[vol66]

Thanks...I don't see how any of that could be detrimental to the game, only positive for college baseball.

[BruinVol]

Big news for college baseball and this would mean the end to the metal bats IMO.
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[Vols4us]

I am all for this. More schollies and wood bats are a good start.

At the same time they need to consider adopting the football rule of being on campus for 3 years before drafting. The basketball rule needs changed to that as well. One and dones are bad for all college sports. If more money comes in the schools can then afford higher quality coaching to develop players for MLB, like college football does for the NFL. This reduces the need for as many Class A and lower developmental minor leagues.

It would be a big help to major college programs and attendance would increase big time. Nothing but pluses for MLB to step in and assist.

[BruinVol]

Originally Posted by Vols4us

I am all for this. More schollies and wood bats are a good start.

At the same time they need to consider adopting the football rule of being on campus for 3 years before drafting. The basketball rule needs changed to that as well. One and dones are bad for all college sports. If more money comes in the schools can then afford higher quality coaching to develop players for MLB, like college football does for the NFL. This reduces the need for as many Class A and lower developmental minor leagues.

It would be a big help to major college programs and attendance would increase big time. Nothing but pluses for MLB to step in and assist.

Its very possible that the 3yr rule would be a part of this IMO. I have heard many scouts say that if college baseball would agree to use wood bats then they wouldn't draft hs hitters. That doesn't account for the hs arms but a start none the less.
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[Yankee_Vol]

That's good.

[DeepSpringsVol]

Good if they can get the wood bats. The schollys has been a big problem too.

[fryeguy93]

MLB can give all the money they want BUT Title IX is the reason that scholarships are artificially limited; at least at big time college level anyway.

Where UT has to figuratively beat the bushes and beg coeds to row; the baseball team (because they have a penises and are not big enough to play football or basketball) has to make due with 1/4 scholarships.

I used to be pro-Title IX but now that I read more about the requirements, it sounds like every other government mandated feel good program.

My son who will never be a college football or basketball player has ZERO chance at a full athletic scholarship if he excelled in baseball, golf, tennis or track&field. My daughter, who has never rowed a boat in her life; could get an athletic grant-in-aid just be walking up to an information booth and signing up. The government and Title IX supporters think this is fair.

So MLB could fund the scholarships at every Div 1 school and it would only increase the number of athletes marginally. Schools like TTU, Western Carolina and others sometimes lack the funds for full complement of scholarships. So, MLB if they funded every scholarship; would add (maybe) 75 scholarships

[BruinVol]

The Title 9 issue is real without question. Shamefully its pretty simple but half of whatever amount of money mlb is willing to invest will go to womens athletics.
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[DeerPark12]

Originally Posted by fryeguy93

MLB can give all the money they want BUT Title IX is the reason that scholarships are artificially limited; at least at big time college level anyway.

Where UT has to figuratively beat the bushes and beg coeds to row; the baseball team (because they have a penises and are not big enough to play football or basketball) has to make due with 1/4 scholarships.

I used to be pro-Title IX but now that I read more about the requirements, it sounds like every other government mandated feel good program.

My son who will never be a college football or basketball player has ZERO chance at a full athletic scholarship if he excelled in baseball, golf, tennis or track&field. My daughter, who has never rowed a boat in her life; could get an athletic grant-in-aid just be walking up to an information booth and signing up. The government and Title IX supporters think this is fair.

So MLB could fund the scholarships at every Div 1 school and it would only increase the number of athletes marginally. Schools like TTU, Western Carolina and others sometimes lack the funds for full complement of scholarships. So, MLB if they funded every scholarship; would add (maybe) 75 scholarships

If MLB funded two scholarships per school, the NCAA would add a scholarship each to softball and women's volleyball to cover the Title IX offset.

To be fair, the majority of rowing athletes are also on partial scholarships and, per NCAA regulations, "novices" that have no previous experience are not eligible to receive aid until they have been in a program for more than a year.

[BruinVol]

Originally Posted by DeerPark12

If MLB funded two scholarships per school, the NCAA would add a scholarship each to softball and women's volleyball to cover the Title IX offset.

To be fair, the majority of rowing athletes are also on partial scholarships and, per NCAA regulations, "novices" that have no previous experience are not eligible to receive aid until they have been in a program for more than a year.

Deer the problem with that is most D1 schools wouldn't add those 2 extra women scholarships unless they were funded elsewhere. MLB would have to pay that bill as well IMO.
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[GO_VOLS1985]

I think this would be awesome

[DeerPark12]

Originally Posted by BruinVol

Deer the problem with that is most D1 schools wouldn't add those 2 extra women scholarships unless they were funded elsewhere. MLB would have to pay that bill as well IMO.
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I disagree. The vast majority of schools have been lobbying for an increase, particularly in volleyball, where a position (Libero) was added to the legal roster in 2003 without an accompanying scholarship increase.

But part of what you said is correct. I think you'll see MLB and the NCAA come to an agreement where MLB will fully fund something like 6 scholarships per team, but the NCAA will only raise the scholarship limit by 3 or 3.5, allowing funds to be freed up on the school level to fund increases in other sports.

[BruinVol]

Originally Posted by DeerPark12

I disagree. The vast majority of schools have been lobbying for an increase, particularly in volleyball, where a position (Libero) was added to the legal roster in 2003 without an accompanying scholarship increase.

But part of what you said is correct. I think you'll see MLB and the NCAA come to an agreement where MLB will fully fund something like 6 scholarships per team, but the NCAA will only raise the scholarship limit by 3 or 3.5, allowing funds to be freed up on the school level to fund increases in other sports.

Thanks for the info. I used the word "most" and that wasn't accurate. The high majors will be fine with extra scholarships on the women's side. Its the mid majors and below that won't go for it IMO.
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[DeerPark12]

Originally Posted by BruinVol

Thanks for the info. I used the word "most" and that wasn't accurate. The high majors will be fine with extra scholarships on the women's side. Its the mid majors and below that won't go for it IMO.
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True, but as has been pointed out to them before, the number is a maximum, not a minimum.

The biggest reason that mid-majors oppose increases like this isn't that they can't afford it, it's that they are concerned that their top players will instead choose to be a role player on a major team instead of their star.