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07-03-2012, 08:42 PM
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| i think the coaches are in a wait and see mode with here,but if you think we dont want her or she not being recruited by the top schools, i dont agree with that at all!! |
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07-03-2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by creative vol i think the coaches are in a wait and see mode with here,but if you think we dont want her or she not being recruited by the top schools, i dont agree with that at all!! | I know both of those statements to be absolute fact. |
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07-03-2012, 10:08 PM
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| deerpark,care to predict who we will sign,2013 |
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07-04-2012, 11:02 AM
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| heres my prediction,scaife, tucker,harris,harper,washington,guess i give up on davis!! |
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07-04-2012, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by creative vol heres my prediction,scaife, tucker,harris,harper,washington,guess i give up on davis!! | That would be a great haul.  Although I'm not hearing us mentioned with Harris a lot. She may be our third option behind Russell and Cooper. |
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07-04-2012, 02:06 PM
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| i know cooper hasnt schuelded any visit yet,how do you feel about russell? |
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07-04-2012, 06:31 PM
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| I would never ever suggest that I know any insider information or that I know more than DeerPark or VolCrazy89. That is why I said, "I will tell you what I know." The information I shared is factual. It may not be the straw that broke the camel's back, but it did take place, and I shared what I knew to people who wanted to know. If I were told in confidence, I would not have shared it. I am not here to air "dirty laundry," and we are all aware, at least those from the Summitt are aware of DP's and VC's opinion on this topic. However, I think the over the top cloke and dagger mystery of all this stuff is rather silly. It is natural for people to wonder and question. All of us don't have the "insider" status of DP and VC. I don't think anyone should get all bent out of shape over some people asking. If you can't share just say so. No need to act superior and tell people "if you want to know, go find out yourself." SMH. I guess this board isn't going to be any friendlier to plain ole Lady Vols fans than the Summitt was. If you aren't with the "clique" you pretty much get told to go away. Of course it isn't said that plainly. |
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07-04-2012, 08:22 PM
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| Hey ladyvols1 - Hang in here with us Summitt refugees and plain ole Lady Vol fans. I'm sure DP and VC meant no disrespect.
I'm actually kind of excited to have a free LV board like this one, and I hope lots of other LV fans come on board. |
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07-05-2012, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyvols1 I would never ever suggest that I know any insider information or that I know more than DeerPark or VolCrazy89. That is why I said, "I will tell you what I know." The information I shared is factual. It may not be the straw that broke the camel's back, but it did take place, and I shared what I knew to people who wanted to know. If I were told in confidence, I would not have shared it. I am not here to air "dirty laundry," and we are all aware, at least those from the Summitt are aware of DP's and VC's opinion on this topic. However, I think the over the top cloke and dagger mystery of all this stuff is rather silly. It is natural for people to wonder and question. All of us don't have the "insider" status of DP and VC. I don't think anyone should get all bent out of shape over some people asking. If you can't share just say so. No need to act superior and tell people "if you want to know, go find out yourself." SMH. I guess this board isn't going to be any friendlier to plain ole Lady Vols fans than the Summitt was. If you aren't with the "clique" you pretty much get told to go away. Of course it isn't said that plainly. | I don't dispute anything you said, just was stating that situation was not what I was referring to.
I can't share more, out of respect to the people involved. I've tried to put that as gently as possible, only to have one poster on here attack me for it. When Ms. Davis is safely signed elsewhere, I'll share the story, if I am permitted to. |
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07-05-2012, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyvols1 I would never ever suggest that I know any insider information or that I know more than DeerPark or VolCrazy89. That is why I said, "I will tell you what I know." The information I shared is factual. It may not be the straw that broke the camel's back, but it did take place, and I shared what I knew to people who wanted to know. If I were told in confidence, I would not have shared it. I am not here to air "dirty laundry," and we are all aware, at least those from the Summitt are aware of DP's and VC's opinion on this topic. However, I think the over the top cloke and dagger mystery of all this stuff is rather silly. It is natural for people to wonder and question. All of us don't have the "insider" status of DP and VC. I don't think anyone should get all bent out of shape over some people asking. If you can't share just say so. No need to act superior and tell people "if you want to know, go find out yourself." SMH. I guess this board isn't going to be any friendlier to plain ole Lady Vols fans than the Summitt was. If you aren't with the "clique" you pretty much get told to go away. Of course it isn't said that plainly. | This is EXACTLY right and it absolutely killed the old board. There are a ton of Lady Vol fans who wouldn't have anything to do with that place because of how it was run. You had the "in" crowd who thought they were the acolytes sharing all of the inside info while actually doing a lot of damage by letting speculation run rampant that they had the power to stop. But then they wouldn't get the subscriptions by freely sharing info. So for all of the talk about protecting the program they were just protecting their nut. Which is fine except for the pretension, condescension, and hypocrisy of it all.
Telling people to pick up the phone and call to get information that you already know but won't share is really beyond the pale and is unacceptable behavior. There is no reason to post on a message board if you are going to take that attitude. If you were told something in confidence and don't want to burn your source then that is fine. No one is going to argue with that and we will be grateful to learn what you are able to tell us. But we can do without the passive aggressive moral posturing and the holier than thou... "you don't deserve to know" attitude. If your neighbor comes to your door to borrow sugar you don't give them a lecture on how to find the grocery store... not if you want them to like and respect you. That is just basic common courtesy.
But on a message board people will also want to know your motivation for not sharing because that is the sole reason to come to these places. If you are here and are not willing to do that then you are going to catch some flack. If you give people a bull**** reason for not sharing then your reputation will take a hit and opinions will be formed of your character. This is of course perfectly reasonable.
You don't get this sort of thing on boards for men's sports for some reason... certainly not to this extent. And the reasons for getting dumped by an important male recruit almost always come out. Certainly no one runs around pretending it is a big secret... especially when the two parties have moved on and aren't in contact anymore.
I don't have the slightest idea what makes some Lady Vol fans act this way but it is very off-putting to normal people who want to post about the Lady Vols and interact in a normal fashion like is done on every other board and it does nothing to broaden the fanbase.
Hopefully if this place picks up steam we will have less of this teenage girl sort of behavior or we can attract a few better posters with contacts who won't sneer at the average fan and their desire to follow the program as closely as possible. |
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07-05-2012, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Voluble2 This is EXACTLY right and it absolutely killed the old board. There are a ton of Lady Vol fans who wouldn't have anything to do with that place because of how it was run. You had the "in" crowd who thought they were the acolytes sharing all of the inside info while actually doing a lot of damage by letting speculation run rampant that they had the power to stop. But then they wouldn't get the subscriptions by freely sharing info. So for all of the talk about protecting the program they were just protecting their nut. Which is fine except for the pretension, condescension, and hypocrisy of it all.
Telling people to pick up the phone and call to get information that you already know but won't share is really beyond the pale and is unacceptable behavior. There is no reason to post on a message board if you are going to take that attitude. If you were told something in confidence and don't want to burn your source then that is fine. No one is going to argue with that and we will be grateful to learn what you are able to tell us. But we can do without the passive aggressive moral posturing and the holier than thou... "you don't deserve to know" attitude. If your neighbor comes to your door to borrow sugar you don't give them a lecture on how to find the grocery store... not if you want them to like and respect you. That is just basic common courtesy.
But on a message board people will also want to know your motivation for not sharing because that is the sole reason to come to these places. If you are here and are not willing to do that then you are going to catch some flack. If you give people a bull**** reason for not sharing then your reputation will take a hit and opinions will be formed of your character. This is of course perfectly reasonable.
You don't get this sort of thing on boards for men's sports for some reason... certainly not to this extent. And the reasons for getting dumped by an important male recruit almost always come out. Certainly no one runs around pretending it is a big secret... especially when the two parties have moved on and aren't in contact anymore.
I don't have the slightest idea what makes some Lady Vol fans act this way but it is very off-putting to normal people who want to post about the Lady Vols and interact in a normal fashion like is done on every other board and it does nothing to broaden the fanbase.
Hopefully if this place picks up steam we will have less of this teenage girl sort of behavior or we can attract a few better posters with contacts who won't sneer at the average fan and their desire to follow the program as closely as possible. | What a load. It takes a different mindset to get all of that out of what's taken place here. It sounded to me like people are trying to bully the info out of DP. I don't know DP personally but I have been around a while and I do know that bullying won't work. I think I can see what "killed the old board". |
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07-05-2012, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Orange Maniac What a load. It takes a different mindset to get all of that out of what's taken place here. It sounded to me like people are trying to bully the info out of DP. I don't know DP personally but I have been around a while and I do know that bullying won't work. I think I can see what "killed the old board". | As time passers, I think this board will become much better than the old board on the other site. The old board appeared to be a bunch of frustrated NOW members who wanted to communicate only with themselves. They can now have their private board and the normal fans can communicate on this board. When this board begins to get some current information, I will become the dominate board for Lady Vol sports. |
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07-05-2012, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by creative vol how do you feel about russell? | I think she's the best player in the class, which is saying something about a class that includes Diamond DeShields, Kaela Davis and Linnae Harper. |
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07-05-2012, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyvols1 I would never ever suggest that I know any insider information or that I know more than DeerPark or VolCrazy89. That is why I said, "I will tell you what I know." The information I shared is factual. It may not be the straw that broke the camel's back, but it did take place, and I shared what I knew to people who wanted to know. If I were told in confidence, I would not have shared it. I am not here to air "dirty laundry," and we are all aware, at least those from the Summitt are aware of DP's and VC's opinion on this topic. However, I think the over the top cloke and dagger mystery of all this stuff is rather silly. It is natural for people to wonder and question. All of us don't have the "insider" status of DP and VC. I don't think anyone should get all bent out of shape over some people asking. If you can't share just say so. No need to act superior and tell people "if you want to know, go find out yourself." SMH. I guess this board isn't going to be any friendlier to plain ole Lady Vols fans than the Summitt was. If you aren't with the "clique" you pretty much get told to go away. Of course it isn't said that plainly. | Another typical ladyvols1 post. Where shall I begin?
I never suggested that you were wrong and the sole point of my post was to point out that that wasn't the main reason for everything -- and I never said you said that it was the main reason. And what you said is true. I just said there was more to the scenario and that what you said wasn't the main reason for everything. At the same time, I was trying to give a little more info. I haven't given specific names, but it should be fairly clear to anyone who has been reading and isn't in their "give me all the info dammit!!" rage.
I find it ironic that you mentioned getting bent out of shape, because that's what you were known for on The Summitt. In the past you had been a valuable poster and I, and others, enjoyed your posts. Then you went off in a huff and didn't post in a while and when you started posting again every now and again the posts were rude and/or whiny. You weren't very popular there up until it went to pay-only because of your incessant whining about EVERYTHING someone said, not because of a "clique". You seem to be 'offended' by A LOT of stuff. People tend to get annoyed when someone is constantly complaining about what they write. If you think I'm being mean by saying that, sorry, but it's the truth. Not to mention you couldn't stay on topic (like the post you just made about me telling you you were wrong ... when I never said that). You attacked a gay woman poster on the board when she said "butch". She attacked back (rightfully so) and then you went off in a huff per usual. Nothing cliquish about that. If you don't want to get called out on a message board, then don't post. I have many times, and I've dealt with it and moved on. You know the saying about staying out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat? Yeah. This may be some news to you, but people do disagree with each other.
What I said was true. People are attacking DP for not giving them the whole story. Why? Why do they think they are entitled to the info? Let them go get the info for themselves like he did, especially if they're going to get bullyish about it. As I said, all anybody needs to know is that Kaela isn't coming here and she isn't being recruited. She no longer has a scholarship offer.
No need for acting "superior". The people acting like they are entitled to private information are doing that just fine on their own. 
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07-05-2012, 03:59 PM
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| | Senior Member | I started this craziness, only giving my opinion of a article I read. Sure you can disagree with my opinion. I don't like for someone to disagree with my opinion however and not give information other than another opinion on the subject. Especially if this person is hinting knowledge of what is really going on. I did not bully anyone, just ask for the facts. If I have abused someone by asking for the facts, maybe next time a person will be more careful about how they respond. At any rate, I did not intentionally try to maneuver information that was not to be discussed. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this subject.
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