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05-24-2012, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DeerPark12 But in a position where contacts in the sports world and the media as well as experience in managing and dealing with crisis IS the job, that experience DOES have a monetary value. It isn't a simple assembly line job where replacements can be quickly trained and put out there. Almost any job in sports, college or professional, is about contacts and experience.
Because an employee doesn't seek out new positions at other companies, they shouldn't be rewarded financially? You should only get a raise if you try to go elsewhere?
As far as this person specifically, she turned down offers over the years to be a top publicist for USA Basketball, the USOC, and the NBA wanted her in their PR department to help launch the WNBA. | You seem to know a lot about Debby.  |
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05-24-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by volroadwarrior You seem to know a lot about Debby.  | I know a lot about most everyone that has worked in athletics more than a little bit. Read any of the dozen articles written on her retirement in the past week on ESPN, SI or the KNS, and you'd know just as much.
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05-24-2012, 01:22 PM
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| Read about something before posting about it. Whoa!! You're asking too much right there.  |
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05-24-2012, 01:31 PM
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| Interesting argument regarding experience and pay. Based on the available documents I'd say it's the wrong argument to be having in regards to both Jennings and Ford. Apparently Jennings and others have been claiming different forms of discrimination going back to 2009. We know Ford was promised or had a contract (he says), so he's filed a breach of contract complaint. If you listen to what Jennings says through her lawyer, she makes the point that Ford and she were handled in the same sort of fashion.
One get's the impression that there have been some very unhappy folks, going back a couple of years and this consolidation is confirming their fears. As for Hart, he's not the hero and he's not the villain...he's just the guy carrying out the plan started years ago. JMO |
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05-24-2012, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DeerPark12 How exactly are you qualified to say she was on "UTAD welfare"? You're talking about someone who worked 12-14 hour days non-stop for 35 years, and was abruptly shown the door. How dare you attack someone like that? You need to get a clue. People aren't just expendable names, these are actual people with lives and families, many of whom have given up many areas of their private lives in order to serve the University and its athletic programs for decades. People, like you, who have ZERO idea what they actually do on a daily basis have no right. | Looks like during those non-stop 12-14 hour days for 35 years she was able to start her own business. I'm sorry but if you're working from 8am - 8pm or 7am-9pm (12-14 hours) non-stop for 35 years you're not working on the side to be Dick Tracy Jr. Jennings is a private investigator |
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05-24-2012, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DeerPark12 But in a position where contacts in the sports world and the media as well as experience in managing and dealing with crisis IS the job, that experience DOES have a monetary value. It isn't a simple assembly line job where replacements can be quickly trained and put out there. Almost any job in sports, college or professional, is about contacts and experience.
Because an employee doesn't seek out new positions at other companies, they shouldn't be rewarded financially? You should only get a raise if you try to go elsewhere?
As far as this person specifically, she turned down offers over the years to be a top publicist for USA Basketball, the USOC, and the NBA wanted her in their PR department to help launch the WNBA. | I called a couple of people today that do know Debby. Both said that they had no problem with her and that she is a generally nice person. However, she does have a sense of entitlement that has run rampant in the women's AD for years. Not really her fault, its a disease that has infected many.
As far as those job offers, sounds like Pat was the one contacted, not Debby, and there has never been a formal offer, just a recommendation from Pat.
I hope this doesn't settle. I would love to see the women AD's dirty laundry aired out. Tons of $$$ down the drain.
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05-24-2012, 03:09 PM
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05-24-2012, 03:12 PM
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05-24-2012, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EnglewoodVol Looks like during those non-stop 12-14 hour days for 35 years she was able to start her own business. I'm sorry but if you're working from 8am - 8pm or 7am-9pm (12-14 hours) non-stop for 35 years you're not working on the side to be Dick Tracy Jr. Jennings is a private investigator |
That link didn't have info, maybe it's been erased...I did find this... Debby Jennings | LinkedIn |
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05-24-2012, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonvols2.2 | Does this "set the record straight"?
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05-24-2012, 04:11 PM
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| Not for me. Not saying it isn't true. But, his word, at this point. I jump the gun in some cases even though I try not to. |
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05-24-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bamacheats
I hope this doesn't settle. I would love to see the women AD's dirty laundry aired out. Tons of $$$ down the drain. | Oh, so you just don't think UT should spend money on women's sport. If you had said that 8 hours ago, we could have avoided this whole discussion. |
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05-24-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DeerPark12 Oh, so you just don't think UT should spend money on women's sport. If you had said that 8 hours ago, we could have avoided this whole discussion. | Way to avoid the topic. Keep posting nonsense. You've tried so hard to get insider e-cred and you got embarrassed by Basilio. Now you're posting make-believe job offers to justify an inflated salary. You know Debby, you want to defend her, great. Fact remains, she's been way overpaid for many years.
I don't have the sources that I used to, none in basketball, none in football, but unfortunately, in a sport that I could absolutely care less about, if I want to know I can. The more I've learned, the more justified the "retirement" is to me. |
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05-24-2012, 05:14 PM
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| If the new dude is doing the dame job just as well for less, why in the help does it make sense to pay someone 50% more to do the job?
Nobody "deserves" a job. |
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05-24-2012, 05:15 PM
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| If the new dude is doing the damn job just as well for less, why in the hell does it make sense to pay someone 50% more to do the job?
Nobody "deserves" a job. |
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