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Old 04-24-2012, 08:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Georgia, Florida, Texas and California produces the best and most elite talent in the country. Ohio and Pennsylvania too but most of those kids stay up north. Tennessee is pretty much on par with all other states imo. They will never come close to the 6 states I mentioned jmo.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Georgia, Florida, Texas and California produces the best and most elite talent in the country. Ohio and Pennsylvania too but most of those kids stay up north. Tennessee is pretty much on par with all other states imo. They will never come close to the 6 states I mentioned jmo.
I would agree....after those six there's not much of a difference between the others
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:02 AM   #18 (permalink)
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last I checked tennessee does produce good talent. they just go out of state, for whatever reason.
I have always heard this argument but never bought into it. The problem is the distance from Knoxville to West TN.

Are there UT fans in West TN? Sure there are--and a lot of them, but the demographic is far and away more diverse, as far as their school allegiances. I would barely put UT in the top three in Memphis, with Ole Miss and Memphis U vying for seniority and UT in a close third but then you have Arkansas, Mississippi State, and now Alabubba (apparently) competing for the talent.

Point being, Memphis is the spot in West TN where most of the talent comes out of and most kids there don't grow up worshiping at the throne of the orange and white. If anything, most of them only know UT as being an average to mediocre SEC team (which is sad).
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I have family that lives in Memphis and unfortunately they hate Tennessee. Like one of the posters said, that area is closer to Ole Miss, Mississippi St, and Arkansas than they are to UT.

Florida, Texas, and California are notorious for their state wide high school programs. Those are all excellent geographic locations with heavy population throughout. Tennessee will never be on the level that those 3 states are on especially, but I feel that Tennessee is on par with the rest of the nation. Talent comes and goes in cycles everywhere.
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Tssaa is a big part of the problem. Stupid restrictions that won't allow coaches to work little Johnny too hard. We need better coaches but they have no incentive to come here. Places like D1 will help for the kids that are dedicated and can afford it.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Tssaa is a big part of the problem. Stupid restrictions that won't allow coaches to work little Johnny too hard. We need better coaches but they have no incentive to come here. Places like D1 will help for the kids that are dedicated and can afford it.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:36 AM   #22 (permalink)
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TSSAA restrictions are on par with most other states, and less restrictive in a lot of cases.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:00 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The average state in America is 12.6% African American

Tennessee is 16.7% and their football talent is slightly above average when you look at all states

when you look at states that produce higher rates of football players than their population should allow you will see far higher concentrations of African Americans

Mississippi - 37%
Alabama - 26.2%
Louisiana - 32%
South Carolina - 27.9%
Georgia - 30.5%

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The average state in America is 12.6% African American

Tennessee is 16.7% and their football talent is slightly above average when you look at all states

when you look at states that produce higher rates of football players than their population should allow you will see far higher concentrations of African Americans

Mississippi - 37%
Alabama - 26.2%
Louisiana - 32%
South Carolina - 27.9%
Georgia - 30.5%

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This! Along with population though. The OP named the three most populated states in our nation (Texas, California, and Florida) then asked we don't produce as much talent as they do.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:32 PM   #28 (permalink)
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The average state in America is 12.6% African American

Tennessee is 16.7% and their football talent is slightly above average when you look at all states

when you look at states that produce higher rates of football players than their population should allow you will see far higher concentrations of African Americans

Mississippi - 37%
Alabama - 26.2%
Louisiana - 32%
South Carolina - 27.9%
Georgia - 30.5%

it is not rocket science

Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words - invent a time machine and get more black people to settle in Tennessee either by a) owning more slaves like several of those states listed had plenty of... Or b) somehow steal all Georgia's, Alabama's, and Mississippi's slaves and offering their families freedom and land here in Tennessee. Because that's pretty much the main reason those states have so many black people today compared to other states.
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There's no good ole boy system when it comes to football. If you're upset because you were always picked last in dodgeball, and never got to start on the football team, it's probably because you sucked.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:21 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The state's talent is underrated. The population argument is a loser. If that was the case please explain why our neighboring states of Alabama and Mississippi produce more top talent every year.

Folks - it involves the emphasis and orientation of the kids to the sport at an earlier an age. The major states start younger with organized leagues throughout their states - not just in a couple of cities/areas. Most all of them have state sanctioned middle school programs in every school that can field a team. The S&C programs start quicker and by the time they are in HS they are well on their way to meeting their full potential.
Vols4us I agree. Mississippi & Alabama have a higher population of blacks than Tennessee & all three are small states population wise,with Mississippi having the highest population of blacks of any state in the nation. Florida,California,& Texas are big states with high populations & alot of blacks!!!!! The majority of blacks that are in america live in the south & thats why the SEC is so great & have been the last 6 national champs!!!!! This is why Memphis & west Tn produces more talent than the rest of the state.
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