High school football rules discussion

[AlpineVol]

The main thing I see is the misconception that HS rules are the same as college or NFL.

[AlpineVol]

Originally Posted by footballref

we all suck according to the people in the stands

Couldn't have said it better myself

[footballref]

Originally Posted by AlpineVol

I worked a 3rd round game at Maryville once and a semi at Baylor. We usually go west and south for playoffs so not many chances to go east. I've heard there are some great places to work out east though.

Maryville is a nice place. I have worked there before. Did you get to go into their weight room at half time? It is awesome!

[footballref]

Originally Posted by AlpineVol

The main thing I see is the misconception that HS rules are the same as college or NFL.

Yeah, just because it happens on Saturday and Sunday means nothing the rest of the week.

Many think that high school has an uncatchable pass and outside the tackle box. These are two things that do no exist when it comes to calling pass interference and intentional grounding.

[footballref]

Originally Posted by AlpineVol

Couldn't have said it better myself

It is sad, but it is true.

One thing I tell my friends when they complain is for them to give me one season as an official. I tell them that I will help them get in. If at the end of the season they still want to complain then feel free.

[AlpineVol]

Originally Posted by footballref

Maryville is a nice place. I have worked there before. Did you get to go into their weight room at half time? It is awesome!

Yep and was thrilled to be in there. It was around 20 degrees out that night. Very impressive facilities there.

[footballref]

Originally Posted by AlpineVol

Yep and was thrilled to be in there. It was around 20 degrees out that night. Very impressive facilities there.

My trip there was a cold night as well.

[footballref]

I wish this thread would take off with some legitimate high school football rules questions.

[AlpineVol]

Originally Posted by footballref

It is sad, but it is true.

One thing I tell my friends when they complain is for them to give me one season as an official. I tell them that I will help them get in. If at the end of the season they still want to complain then feel free.

Great statement. The one thing that really irritates me is when people tell me that one official or another "hates" a school or "has it out for" a school.

If there is one thing I could tell every fan it is that not one official cares in the least who wins what. The only thing they care about is getting it right. I've had games where I walk off the field and during our post-game I have to ask somone the score because I didn't know. If people only knew.......

[footballref]

Originally Posted by AlpineVol

Great statement. The one thing that really irritates me is when people tell me that one official or another "hates" a school or "has it out for" a school.

If there is one thing I could tell every fan it is that not one official cares in the least who wins what. The only thing they care about is getting it right. I've had games where I walk off the field and during our post-game I have to ask somone the score because I didn't know. If people only knew.......

Agreed. There is nothing worse than being told I am pulling for one team or the other at the youth level.

It is funny too when we go to a school and we cover both teams, yet they don't realize that and the visiting team things were "pulling' for the home team.

[tigervol9802]

Correct me if werong - but there is no such rule as "uncatchable" for PI, correct.

And while you ae at it, if you could explain the rules for holding, clipping, and such at the LOS or behind it. Is that a spot foul or from the previous LOS?

[footballref]

Originally Posted by tigervol9802

Correct me if werong - but there is no such rule as "uncatchable" for PI, correct.

And while you ae at it, if you could explain the rules for holding, clipping, and such at the LOS or behind it. Is that a spot foul or from the previous LOS?

You're right. No such thing as an uncatchable pass in high school.

If you have an offensive hold. The flag goes at the spot of the hold. The penalty will be marked from either the spot of the hold or the end of the run. Whichever penalizes the offense the worst.

There is an all but one principle that states fouls are penalized from the end of the run except for fouls by the offense that happen behind the end of the run.

There is also loose ball fouls which get enforced from the previous spot. These are a little tougher. They will involve a pass, kick, or fumble behind the line of scrimmage.

With clipping or other illegal blocks there is a free blocking zone where things like this are legal as long as certain criteria are met. Otherwise they will be marked off the same as a hold.

Hope this helps some. If not, I will try and clarify
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[tigervol9802]

Originally Posted by footballref

You're right. No such thing as an uncatchable pass in high school.

If you have an offensive hold. The flag goes at the spot of the hold. The penalty will be marked from either the spot of the hold or the end of the run. Whichever penalizes the offense the worst.

There is an all but one principle that states fouls are penalized from the end of the run except for fouls by the offense that happen behind the end of the run.

There is also loose ball fouls which get enforced from the previous spot. These are a little tougher. They will involve a pass, kick, or fumble behind the line of scrimmage.

With clipping or other illegal blocks there is a free blocking zone where things like this are legal as long as certain criteria are met. Otherwise they will be marked off the same as a hold.

Hope this helps some. If not, I will try and clarify
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Nope. That does answer it.

I have said before at games I didn't think there was an uncatchable rule in high school, but I wanted to verify.

How many yards is the free blocking zone?

[DocVOLiday]

Originally Posted by footballref

we all suck according to the people in the stands

1. I wasn't saying all refs suck
2. I wasn't in the stands, this was my last year to play. But refs are human and make mistakes, and unfortunatelty my team lost 2 games by 1 point with 3 touchdowns controversially called back between the two games...
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[footballref]

Originally Posted by tigervol9802

How many yards is the free blocking zone?

The free-blocking zone is a rectangular area extending laterally 4 yards either side of the spot of the snap and 3 yards behind each line of scrimmage. A player is in the free-blocking zone when any part of his body is in the zone at the snap.

Basically is it tackle to tackle and you have to be on the LOS at the snap to be illegally blocked. The ball also has to still in the zone, so the blocks have to take place instantly with the snap.