The 108th U.S. Open Championship - Page 3

peaygolf89 · 06-10-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

when the pros are hitting everything 4 feet past, they're really quick. 15 is certainy doable today. I played Augusta when they were slow, according to the members, and they were as fast as anything I've ever played.

You played Augusta National???? Ok! Me too! Never ran a 15! Honors Course, Oak Hill, Seminole, and Pine Valley were all faster.

Sergio can win if he putts great!! Not his strength. He did putt very well at TPC! He has as much talent as ANYONE on the PGA tour, but putting has been a problem in the past. If he putts well, he is always a contender. I think he is great and I really like him. His game fits the US Open to perfection....except for putting!

peaygolf89 · 06-10-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

look at any ratio of wins to tourneys played, including Majors, and Nicklaus isn't even close. I mean, it's not even close. I will grant you that there were more true greats of golf in Nicklaus' day, but the depth of the fields was absolutely anemic compared to today.

Make all the arguments you'd like, but you might consider sticking to playing golf rather than talking about it.

Yes, 15 at Augusta. 15 at Muirfield. Buddy of mine just finished the Nationwide event in Raleigh and said those were 15 on Friday and Saturday.

I have forgotten more "golf" than you know! Tiger WILL be the best, but not yet!!!!!! 15 on a Nationwide event???? Really??? NO CHANCE!!!!!

You "may" have me in football, but not golf. Sorry! I do like your confidence...that is what makes a great golfer great!

**orange+white=heaven** · 06-10-2008, 02:41 PM

Golf Channel coverage from Torrey is under way. Aerials of the holes, though they give no sense of depth, show a stunning setup...

Tiger's presser will be replayed at 4pm.

By the way...

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Tiger WILL be the best, but not yet!!!!!!

If he will be the best, then it's logical to say that he is the best. All history has a present. So what will be... is.

**orange+white=heaven** · 06-10-2008, 02:53 PM

Harrington...

"The front of these greens are very accessible... I would actually fancy the chances of the short, straight hitters here..."

BigPapaVol · 06-10-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by peaygolf89

15!? NoChance! He is wrong! Ask any USGA or PGA Official what the regulations are. 15 is not an option!!!!! Not playable!

I'll trust him further than I trust you. He said they were rolling 15. It ain't in him to lie about it.

BigPapaVol · 06-10-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by peaygolf89

You played Augusta National???? Ok! Me too! Never ran a 15! Honors Course, Oak Hill, Seminole, and Pine Valley were all faster.

Sergio can win if he putts great!! Not his strength. He did putt very well at TPC! He has as much talent as ANYONE on the PGA tour, but putting has been a problem in the past. If he putts well, he is always a contender. I think he is great and I really like him. His game fits the US Open to perfection....except for putting!

The Honors (I'm assuming you mean outside Chatt.)wasn't close, nor was Seminole. Pine Valley was comparable.

As to Sergio, you said he has no chance. Which is it? I think he wins if he putts reasonably. If he putts great, he kills the field.

Your comments this time around abolutely mirror mine that you discarded the first time. How is anyone supposed to buy anything you say? Nonsensical.

**orange+white=heaven** · 06-10-2008, 03:07 PM

Sergio is now on from the media caenter...

BigPapaVol · 06-10-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by peaygolf89

I have forgotten more "golf" than you know! Tiger WILL be the best, but not yet!!!!!! 15 on a Nationwide event???? Really??? NO CHANCE!!!!!

You "may" have me in football, but not golf. Sorry! I do like your confidence...that is what makes a great golfer great!

I suspect that you haven't forgotten more golf than I know. You might be able to beat me at golf, but you don't display the capacity to have forgotten more about it than I have learned.

IMO, Tiger is the best golfer to ever play. If longevity is part of your argument, then Jack is the winner. If you're looking at out and out ability to dominate golf, Tiger is untouchable. Too much of his game is THE best on the tour. Nicklaus could not make the same claim.

**orange+white=heaven** · 06-10-2008, 03:22 PM

Reporter: Sergio, do you think Tiger is as much a favorite coming in with the knee, that he might ordinarily be?....

Sergio:Absolutely! Like Big Brown with the hoof, he was still the favorite...

Reporter: And where did Big Brown finish?....

crazyguy · 06-10-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by orange+white=heaven

Reporter: Sergio, do you think Tiger is as much a favorite coming in with the knee, that he might ordinarily be?....

Sergio:Absolutely! Like Big Brown with the hoof, he was still the favorite...

Reporter: And where did Big Brown finish?....

that's a great quote...but the rest of the field had better hope that Tiger doesn't hear it....

BigPapaVol · 06-10-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyguy

that's a great quote...but the rest of the field had better hope that Tiger doesn't hear it....

I hear you, but there aren't many Open setups that suit him. This is one, but his Driver has been awful lately and the layoff can't have helped.

I would think if I ever wanted to egg on Tiger, now would be the time.

doozer · 06-10-2008, 05:33 PM

i'm not 100% familiar with the course, but from what i've seen it doesn't appear to set itself up around a few holes to neccessarily be a good spot for spectators.

BigPapaVol · 06-10-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by doozer

i'm not 100% familiar with the course, but from what i've seen it doesn't appear to set itself up around a few holes to neccessarily be a good spot for spectators.

sounds like a pitch & putt to me.

peaygolf89 · 06-11-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

I'll trust him further than I trust you. He said they were rolling 15. It ain't in him to lie about it.

I never said lie!! He just embellished the speed. No green will run a 15 on a flat putt. That is how the speed is measured. 15 flat would be 20 downhill, not playable.

Sergio will not win because of his putting. I said "IF" he putts great, he could win, but he will not. I would love to see it, I like him alot.

Green speeds.....I've caddied on tour, know many players and caddies....no green has ever run a 15 on a flat putt. sorry.

**GAVol** · 06-11-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by peaygolf89

Green speeds.....I've caddied on tour, know many players and caddies....no green has ever run a 15 on a flat putt. sorry.

The fastest I've ever heard of is a 13.5-14 reading at Muirfield Village for the Memorial one year. Putting downhill on that would be like putting down your windshield and trying to stop the ball on the hood.