Stanley Cup (merged)

[doozer]

I never could root for Hull. I tolerated him in Detroit because they were winning but quite frankly the guy can shove it for all I care.

[hmanvolfan]

Originally Posted by doozer

Monday looks pretty irrelevant now. Don't ya think?

Not based on your assertion that a hockey game will be over if you have a first period lead.

[doozer]

both teams led after the first period. and won game 5 and game 6. i don't know how much more you can read into that.

i knew if Detroit got a first period lead, the game would be over. yeah, it had exciting parts after the first period, but i had no doubts.

[hmanvolfan]

Originally Posted by doozer

both teams led after the first period. and won game 5 and game 6. i don't know how much more you can read into that.

i knew if Detroit got a first period lead, the game would be over. yeah, it had exciting parts after the first period, but i had no doubts.

Pittsburgh led 2-0 after the first period in game five and had to go to triple OT to win the game. If you think a first period lead will win a hockey game, I retire from this discussion.

[doozer]

Originally Posted by hmanvolfan

I retire from this discussion.

good.

i KNEW a first period lead would win the Cup for Detroit, and it did. therefore, i was hopeful for one.

[Vercingetorix]

Originally Posted by doozer

good.

i KNEW a first period lead would win the Cup for Detroit, and it did. therefore, i was hopeful for one.

Sorry, but I'm with Hman. If you "knew" a first period lead of less than, say, four goals would win, then you haven't watched much hockey. I don't think I've seen a playoff game that I knew was over in the first period since the Wings scored 7 goals on Patrick Roy and the Avs six or seven years ago.

[doozer]

Detroit is has won like 11 of their last 13 game 6s on the road to close out a series. I don't recall the exact number, but add that to the fact that they had closed out on the road every series so far on the road this post season. Then factor in the ability to possess the puck and I knew if they got a first period lead, the game was over.

[doozer]

I've watched them enough to be able to tell when it's going to be a fight or be over after the first period.

[Vercingetorix]

Detroit blew a first-period lead against Nashville in the first round. That didn't happen?

Originally Posted by doozer

I've watched them enough to be able to tell when it's going to be a fight or be over after the first period.

It's awesome how you know more from watching the games on TV than people who are involved with hockey for a living.

[doozer]

Originally Posted by Vercingetorix

Detroit blew a first-period lead against Nashville in the first round. That didn't happen? It's awesome how you know more from watching the games on TV than people who are involved with hockey for a living.

Pretty sure it was 0-0 after the first period of game 6 in Nashville. Please point me to where I said a lead after 1 means it's over every single time. We're only talking about the game Wednesday.

[doozer]

Based on their ability to close out on the road, I knew they could close out the Pens if they had a first period lead IN THIS ONE GAME.

[Vercingetorix]

Detroit led Nashville 1-0 after the first period in Game 3 of their series. They got the first goal of the second period to go up 2-0, but Nashville came back to win the game 5-3.

Look, I don't have any idea how much you know about hockey, how long you've been watching, etc. But to claim that you "knew" with certainty that they'd win if they just got a first-period lead makes it sound like you just started watching when the playoffs moved to NBC for the finals. It's silly.

The Wings lost a Game Six on the road LAST YEAR, in Anaheim. Are they suddenly supposed to be unstoppable on the road this year?

[doozer]

Originally Posted by Vercingetorix

Detroit led Nashville 1-0 after the first period in Game 3 of their series. They got the first goal of the second period to go up 2-0, but Nashville came back to win the game 5-3.

Look, I don't have any idea how much you know about hockey, how long you've been watching, etc. But to claim that you "knew" with certainty that they'd win if they just got a first-period lead makes it sound like you just started watching when the playoffs moved to NBC for the finals. It's silly.

The Wings lost a Game Six on the road LAST YEAR, in Anaheim. Are they suddenly supposed to be unstoppable on the road this year?

i don't know if maybe i wasn't explaining myself or what. i only have so much space to type on my phone, so i was limited.

first, last year in Anaheim, they were down 2-3 going into game 6, so that's not what i'm talking about. second, the Nashville game isn't even relevant because it was game 3.

i am specifically talking about winning game 6, on the road, to close a series. based on the fact that the last 13 times they've had a 3-2 lead going into game 6, they've won, i had no reason to believe they wouldn't win Wednesday. add to that, 11 of the 13 series have been on the road and i have even more reason to be confident.

i never once said that a first period lead in a game means you're going to win.

i want to be clear, based on the stat i mentioned, i knew that if they could get first period lead, it would be over. i also said, that while Detroit had their exciting moments in that game and the Pens made it close, i knew they were going to win after they had the lead.

all i have ever been talking about is Detroit winning game 6 (at home or on the road) and their seemingly automatic ability to get the job done and not have to play game 7. that's it.

edit: also, Detroit did this similar thing in 1998. they had home ice advantage through out and clinched all four series on the road. that year it was all 4-2 if i remember right.

[volsgal03]

The Redwings swept both of their opponents in their last Stanley Cups, I'm glad Pittsburgh took a couple from them.