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02-04-2008, 09:32 PM
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| | C.J. Black owes me $50... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hugging Harold Reynolds...
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| Wait a minute... Ryan Mallett could be playing in 2008? |
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02-04-2008, 09:35 PM
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| | Mrs. Kiffin Fan Club Pres Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Knoxvegas
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Arkansas is contemplating an appeal for former Michigan QB Ryan Mallett to play this fall. According to NCAA rules, Mallett must sit out a season because he transferred from one Division I school to another. Although the NCAA has been more lenient lately in transfer cases, this one could be defining. Players often sign with universities because of coaches and systems. Given that coaches are free to move from school to school, players should be allowed to appeal specific situations. . . .
The NCAA's investigation of USC and former All-American Reggie Bush could take a significant step next week. Bush is scheduled to be deposed by attorneys for sports marketer Lloyd Lake, who is seeking to recoup $291,600 he and his business partner, Michael Michaels, allegedly gave Bush and his family. Bottom line: The NCAA must prove USC knew about the alleged payments before any sanctions can be imposed. . . .
Early last fall, an NFL general manager told me Kansas State coach Ron Prince was a fast riser in the eyes of the league. Now it appears the pressure is building in Manhattan. Prince has six junior college recruits enrolled and has commitments from 13 more JC transfers. That's not building with a philosophy; that's scrambling to find answers.
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02-04-2008, 09:42 PM
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| | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Knoxville, TN
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| That's jacked up if he gets to play. |
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02-04-2008, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno That's jacked up if he gets to play. | Why would it be "jacked up"?  |
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02-04-2008, 10:19 PM
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| | Man, Myth, Legend Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Johnson City
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| I think it's absurd that coaches can leave essentially at their leisure and players only get to suffer. I'd have no gripe if they allow him to play. Even if he was transferring to 'Bama. |
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02-04-2008, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill I think it's absurd that coaches can leave essentially at their leisure and players only get to suffer. I'd have no gripe if they allow him to play. Even if he was transferring to 'Bama. | Agreed... but still can't see the NCAA bending over backwards for this kid. |
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02-04-2008, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Agreed... but still can't see the NCAA bending over backwards for this kid. | Perhaps. But i'd just change the rule. If your coach leaves and you want to transfer, you're entitled to use that transfer clause once in your 5 available years as a college athlete.
Let's use Mallett as an example. Carr retires and Rodriguez comes in. Mallett knows he's worthless in Rod's system so he uses his one transfer clause since his coach left to go to Arkansas. He's not forced to sit out a year. Now then, next year when Petrino bolts for somewhere else, Mallett can either stay or have to sit a year if he wants to transfer again. That's at least what I would do. |
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02-04-2008, 10:52 PM
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| | C.J. Black owes me $50... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hugging Harold Reynolds...
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Originally Posted by volfanbill Perhaps. But i'd just change the rule. If your coach leaves and you want to transfer, you're entitled to use that transfer clause once in your 5 available years as a college athlete.
Let's use Mallett as an example. Carr retires and Rodriguez comes in. Mallett knows he's worthless in Rod's system so he uses his one transfer clause since his coach left to go to Arkansas. He's not forced to sit out a year. Now then, next year when Petrino bolts for somewhere else, Mallett can either stay or have to sit a year if he wants to transfer again. That's at least what I would do. | Makes sense, but you will have some wacko say that it would be too hard to keep track of players if they are moving around like that. I don't buy that argument and I think it is a pretty weak argument (considering that non-athletes transfer from schools all the time), but that will be the reason most give for not supporting your idea. |
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02-04-2008, 10:55 PM
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| | Man, Myth, Legend Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Johnson City
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Makes sense, but you will have some wacko say that it would be too hard to keep track of players if they are moving around like that. I don't buy that argument and I think it is a pretty weak argument (considering that non-athletes transfer from schools all the time), but that will be the reason most give for not supporting your idea. | that's a horrific excuse. It's not like 300 coaches change jobs everywhere. I'm not talking about position coaches here. Although thinking about it, I'd almost be inclined to include coordinators. Imagine if Pryor was already committed to play for UT because of Cut and Cut bolted on him. I think I'd even allow that transfer. |
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02-05-2008, 03:12 AM
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| The main thing is keeping it from being free agent college players. |
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02-05-2008, 03:36 AM
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| | The Future is NOW!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cookeville, TN
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| It's not like coaches change places every year. Let the kid play, I don't have a problem with it.
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02-05-2008, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Agreed... but still can't see the NCAA bending over backwards for this kid. | Read up on the Baylor basketball program |
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02-05-2008, 09:36 AM
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| | I resemble that remark Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Originally Posted by justingroves Read up on the Baylor basketball program | That was a little different situation, right? |
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02-05-2008, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by justingroves Read up on the Baylor basketball program | Totally different circumstances... a murder conspiracy and a coach retiring aren't even in the same sport, much less same ballpark. |
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02-05-2008, 06:31 PM
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| | Man, Myth, Legend Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Johnson City
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Totally different circumstances... a murder conspiracy and a coach retiring aren't even in the same sport, much less same ballpark. | hate to agree with TVA, but I do. Baylor was a completely different story than we'll likely see for quite some time |
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