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01-02-2008, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VolinArizona  OU hadn't had a winning season since 1993 before Stoops took over. OU has tons of tradition, but it's not like Georgia, LSU, Auburn, etc don't. | he did a good job of getting them turned back around but he's still not the top 5 coach that the media would have you think that he is. a coach can have a ring and still not be great, i think we all know that. | 
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01-02-2008, 11:37 PM
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| I know that. It's not an auto success, either. Alabama and Nebraska have proven that. | |
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01-02-2008, 11:38 PM
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| I think Stoops is one of the top coaches in the country.
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01-02-2008, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by volinbham OU has a stronger/longer tradition in football than those 3 teams. The fact that they were down for a period doesn't change that. | SMU has a lot of tradition. I don't see them rising to prominence anytime soon as a result. | |
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01-02-2008, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thagodfather he did a good job of getting them turned back around but he's still not the top 5 coach that the media would have you think that he is. a coach can have a ring and still not be great, i think we all know that. | You're right - I can't possibly think on my own and only form opinions on what the media tells me. You, O Great One, are the only one who can see through the BS.
A little condescending assumption from you, good sir. | |
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01-02-2008, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VolinArizona Laughable.
Carroll is the only coach CLEARLY better than him. | why? he gets outcoached in nearly every bcs game that oklahoma plays in. | |
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01-02-2008, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kptvol SMU has a lot of tradition. I don't see them rising to prominence anytime soon as a result. | You are comparing OU and SMU in terms of football tradition? 
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01-02-2008, 11:41 PM
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| What is a better sample size? The 6 BCS bowl games he's coached (2-4) or the other hundred games he's coached? | |
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01-02-2008, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by volinbham You are comparing OU and SMU in terms of football tradition? | I just don't think tradition factors in that much. OU has a tradition as a football powerhouse, as does UGA. I don't think tradition gives OU an advantage over Georgia. | |
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01-02-2008, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VolinArizona You're right - I can't possibly think on my own and only form opinions on what the media tells me. You, O Great One, are the only one who can see through the BS.
A little condescending assumption from you, good sir. | what? you carry a little chip on the shoulder, don't you. i was only pointing out once more that the media puts him on a higher pedestal than is deserved. i am sure that your opinions are your own. settle down. | |
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01-02-2008, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kptvol I just don't think tradition factors in that much. OU has a tradition as a football powerhouse, as does UGA. I don't think tradition gives OU an advantage over Georgia. | It's about the program - from the top administration on down and where they see football fitting. OSU, OU, UA, Michigan, USC, etc. have it in spades. The other top SEC schools including UT have more than most but a great program year after year is about more than the coach. Stoops, Carroll and Tressel are all assisted by their programs and their status.
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01-02-2008, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VolinArizona What is a better sample size? The 6 BCS bowl games he's coached (2-4) or the other hundred games he's coached? | the bcs games. | |
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01-02-2008, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by volinbham It's about the program - from the top administration on down and where they see football fitting. OSU, OU, UA, Michigan, USC, etc. have it in spades. The other top SEC schools including UT have more than most but a great program year after year is about more than the coach. Stoops, Carroll and Tressel are all assisted by their programs and their status. | I'd be willing to bet Georgia not only has more all time wins than OU, but also invests more money in the football program.
Edit: I was wrong. OU is 8th all-time in wins. UGA is 10th. Not that much difference. | |
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01-02-2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by VolinArizona What is a better sample size? The 6 BCS bowl games he's coached (2-4) or the other hundred games he's coached? | Can we apply that criteria to Fulmer?
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01-02-2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kptvol I'd be willing to bet Georgia not only has more all time wins than OU, but also invests more money in the football program. | actually, they don't. | |
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