Heisman Race?

TennesseeT · 11-16-2007, 09:43 AM

With Oregon losing last night while Dixon set on the sidelines you would have to figure that his chances are slim.

I read an interesting article that identified the top Heisman candidates as being Tebow, Dorsey, and McFadden. I think Tebow has to be in the lead but I wonder if there is going to be some hesitation on the voters behalf to award the trophy to a Sophmore.

What do you guys think?

VolfanMike · 11-16-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TennesseeT

With Oregon losing last night while Dixon set on the sidelines you would have to figure that his chances are slim.

I read an interesting article that identified the top Heisman candidates as being Tebow, Dorsey, and McFadden. I think Tebow has to be in the lead but I wonder if there is going to be some hesitation on the voters behalf to award the trophy to a Sophmore.

What do you guys think?

Tebow and Reissen (sp) the quarterback for KU will be getting a lot of looks as well...Depending on if they can win out....The qb from Mizzou should also be considered....But, with all that said I still think its Tebows trophy to lose....Just MO.

**lawgator1** · 11-16-2007, 09:55 AM

The sophomore issue will be significant to a lot of voters. If the Gators were undefeated or had just the one tough loss at LSU, they might overlook that. But with three losses, its a convenient justification to say that they will vote for him next year, or the year after, on the assumption that the team will have a better record later.

**tidwell** · 11-16-2007, 09:57 AM

Go ahead and hand it to Tebow. It was just about silly to have Dixon ahead of Tebow before Dixon even got injured. Tebow will most likely end up with 50+ TDs and it was only a matter of time before Oregon threw up all over themselves and people sat back and realized that Tebow had superior (and not really close) numbers to Dixon.

VolfanMike · 11-16-2007, 10:00 AM

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The sophomore issue will be significant to a lot of voters. If the Gators were undefeated or had just the one tough loss at LSU, they might overlook that. But with three losses, its a convenient justification to say that they will vote for him next year, or the year after, on the assumption that the team will have a better record later.

I agree....But, I just don't see how they can't give it to Tebow this year (as bad as I hate to say it) I guess it depends on how the final two games are played....If Arkansas can muster up a win against LSU and Mcafadden puts up good numbers, then he will be back out front...To be honest I am not even real sure who the finalist will be....Tebow, DMAC, Dixon, (Reiseen, Daniels, White, Slaton, Ryan or Dorsey) Any of those guys could jump in or jump out of the race by season's end...

TennesseeT · 11-16-2007, 10:03 AM

I would really like to see Dorsey start to get some attention. The Heisman is for the best player in the country not the best player on the best team. Dorsey would start and dominate his position if he played for any team in the country. Plus he has put up some stupid numbers despite constant double teams and extra attention. That Long kid has some hellacious numbers also.

**lawgator1** · 11-16-2007, 10:08 AM

I truly hope that Tebow is not put in a position this weekend where he puts up ridiculous numbers against a weak FAU team. Another 7 touchdown performance and people will mock him for the weakness of the competition and use that to distract away from what he did against better oppnents. Honestly, he'd be better off with 4 touchdowns in that game than 7. Save his best game for FSU next weekend and that would impress the voters much more, IMO.

As you know, I do think that Tebow is deserving of the honor, but he is just a sophomore in a year with no real standouts. I think it would be better and more meaningful to him 30 years form now if he won it next year.

gatorhater_35 · 11-16-2007, 10:08 AM

Who cares? I havent watched ceremony since 97

utfantilidie · 11-16-2007, 10:08 AM

I watched some of Spurriers coaches show the other night and he never once commented on Tebow until he stated something about him breaking some kind of rushing record for TDs. Not sure if he was just mad at his teams performance or wasn't that impressed with Tebow.

**lawgator1** · 11-16-2007, 10:11 AM

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I watched some of Spurriers coaches show the other night and he never once commented on Tebow until he stated something about him breaking some kind of rushing record for TDs. Not sure if he was just mad at his teams performance or wasn't that impressed with Tebow.

Neither.

I just think that Spurrier senses that it would be truly bad form for him, as former coach of the Gators, as a former Gator player, to gush on and on about Tebow. I am quite confident he likes the kid and wishes he had one like him on that squad, but of all the coaches in the country, SOS is in the absolute worst position to ever say so.

**tidwell** · 11-16-2007, 10:13 AM

Spurrier was probably busy trying to say how tough the 3rd year is for the coaching staff at a new team... nevermind the fact he was talking SEC Championship during the pre-season.

VolfanMike · 11-16-2007, 10:14 AM

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Neither.

I just think that Spurrier senses that it would be truly bad form for him, as former coach of the Gators, as a former Gator player, to gush on and on about Tebow. I am quite confident he likes the kid and wishes he had one like him on that squad, but of all the coaches in the country, SOS is in the absolute worst position to ever say so.

I dont think Tebow would be Tebow in any other offense other than Meyers...With that said, Meyer is going to get him hurt...I understand Urbans wants to bring the Heisman and a NC to Gainesville from a recruiting standpoint..But, if Tim doesnt win it this year, and Meyer runs him like this next season he may not even be mentioned for the heisman race....Tebow will have a weapon at RB next year though, but they will still get what they have coming from alot of SEC teams...Meyer's time to pay the piper is coming.....

37620VOL · 11-16-2007, 10:18 AM

I am sure Michigan has a DB that deserves it.

37620VOL · 11-16-2007, 10:19 AM

Seriously, the best player in the NCAA is Glen Dorsey.

**lawgator1** · 11-16-2007, 10:24 AM

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I dont think Tebow would be Tebow in any other offense other than Meyers...With that said, Meyer is going to get him hurt...I understand Urbans wants to bring the Heisman and a NC to Gainesville from a recruiting standpoint..But, if Tim doesnt win it this year, and Meyer runs him like this next season he may not even be mentioned for the heisman race....Tebow will have a weapon at RB next year though, but they will still get what they have coming from alot of SEC teams...Meyer's time to pay the piper is coming.....

There have been times this year at the end of some games where I sort of scratch my head about leaving Tebow in, and definitely raise an eyebrow when he's running the ball with the game well in hand.

I am hoping that with the addition of Moody next year at RB and a summer to work on the passing game, Tebow is going to be transitioned into a much more traditional role as a throwing QB. I mean, he definitely can throw the thing a mile. He just needs that extra experience at reading defenses, being in-sync with the receivers, etc.