What do you think?

Fine Vol · 11-01-2007, 12:45 PM

I will never say a negative word about Brett Farve. He is the man in my eyes and have great respect for him. Last night I was talking football with a guy and I said Peyton is the best QB playing right now. He said no I was wrong and it was Brett. I said, I mean as of now and not career wise Peyton is the better QB. He said I know nothing about football. Am I wrong here , I think not. Thoughts?

volfanbill · 11-01-2007, 01:13 PM

I think you've come a long since your first day on VN. I'd even agree with you for the right now.

**jakez4ut** · 11-01-2007, 01:13 PM

today, peyton is better. cant' even go there about careers.......yet. Favre is hands down one of hte top 3-5 qbs of all time, of that there is little doubt.

will peyton enter that discussion......time will tell.

Fine Vol · 11-01-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill

I think you've come a long since your first day on VN. I'd even agree with you for the right now.

Yea I have learned many things from VN. Its a good thing.

BigPapaVol · 11-01-2007, 02:14 PM

that conversation, sans Tom Brady, makes no sense to me.

If you gotta go out and win one ballgame, who's the guy? For my money, and I'm a Peyton fan, it's Brady.

volfanbill · 11-01-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

that conversation, sans Tom Brady, makes no sense to me.

If you gotta go out and win one ballgame, who's the guy? For my money, and I'm a Peyton fan, it's Brady.

i'm under the impression it's a contest between manning and favre. It's not who is the best right now all encompassing, it's who is better, manning or favre. There is no reason you can't have that argument. and if you think Manning is better than Brady, and the other guy thinks Favre is better than Brady, no need to bring him up then.

If you wanted to, you could even argue who's better, Cleo Lemon or Brian Griese without having to mention Brady's name. I just don't know why you'd need to compare those two, unless you're fantasy football team allows you to start 4 qbs and you're stuck on making a selection for the 4th guy.

Fine Vol · 11-01-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

that conversation, sans Tom Brady, makes no sense to me.

If you gotta go out and win one ballgame, who's the guy? For my money, and I'm a Peyton fan, it's Brady.

I think it goes
1. Peyton
2.Brady
3. Farve

crazyguy · 11-01-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Vol

I think it goes
1. Peyton
2.Brady
3. Farve

I'm a peyton fan but I might give brady the edge.

Fine Vol · 11-01-2007, 03:03 PM

PM is better at reading a D and changing the play for the better thats why I give him the win.

wncvolfan · 11-01-2007, 08:29 PM

I love to watch both of them play but IMO Peyton has the edge simply because he doesn't make the crazy mistakes Favre makes. Favre loves to have his passes caught and sometimes I think it doesn't matter to him who catches them. RE: the night game with the Bears last month.

hmanvolfan · 11-01-2007, 08:39 PM

There's no doubt in my mind that Peyton will ultimately surpass Favre in the overall qb excellence argument. Brady is an excellent qb as well but is playing with far superior teamates. When the Patriots salary cap goes overboard and their talent level comes back to the pack look for Brady's production to fall off.

BigPapaVol · 11-01-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill

i'm under the impression it's a contest between manning and favre. It's not who is the best right now all encompassing, it's who is better, manning or favre. There is no reason you can't have that argument. and if you think Manning is better than Brady, and the other guy thinks Favre is better than Brady, no need to bring him up then.

If you wanted to, you could even argue who's better, Cleo Lemon or Brian Griese without having to mention Brady's name. I just don't know why you'd need to compare those two, unless you're fantasy football team allows you to start 4 qbs and you're stuck on making a selection for the 4th guy.

while I certainly appreciate the debate lesson, if you'd read, FV said the debate was about the best QB playing right now. FV's horse was Manning and the other guy said Favre. I said that debate should include Brady.

volfanbill · 11-01-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

while I certainly appreciate the debate lesson, if you'd read, FV said the debate was about the best QB playing right now. FV's horse was Manning and the other guy said Favre. I said that debate should include Brady.

as i said, if person A. believes Favre and person B. believes Manning, Brady's name doesn't have to come up. It can still can make sense.

BigPapaVol · 11-01-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill

as i said, if person A. believes Favre and person B. believes Manning, Brady's name doesn't have to come up. It can still can make sense.

if we're talking about the best QB's in the game today, and we were, then his name has to come up. He wrote the note asking for our opinions regarding the debate. I gave one. You wrote back with some mathematical formula trying to excuse your oversight and correct me. That makes no sense.

volfanbill · 11-01-2007, 10:49 PM

no.. once again you don't know how to read and only you can be right. if you knew anything about me, you would know that I too think Brady is the best qb in the game right now. But, as you've mentioned before you don't care enough to learn about anything else, you just put out your opinion and it's right regardless. I was pointing out that FV made a good point. Brady doesn't have to be mentioned for it to make sense. It was their opinions. Obviously, FV knows something about football to choose manning. that or he's just a tennessee homer.