ACC basketball coaches

kkep48 · 05-17-2007, 09:30 AM

I find it ridiculous that the ACC basketball coaches are trying to prevent the conference from expanding its conference schedule from 16 to 18 conference games. They say it will prevent them from scheduling quality, high-profile non-conference games. That, in itself, is the most absurd thing I've heard. The likes of Duke and North Carolina continually load up on teams like UNC-Asheville and other 30-pt blowout teams. ACC coaches are some of the biggest whiners in the country and proving over and over again that they are afraid of their own shadows.

volfanbill · 05-17-2007, 09:50 AM

you might want to reword this. Last year, Duke had the 3 hardest SOS while Carolina came in at 8th. Duke faced the likes of Marquette, Indiana, Gonzaga, Georgetown, and George Mason. Carolina went up against Gonzaga, us, Ohio State, Kentucky, Penn, and Winthrop.

You can't blame the coaches in such a basketball loaded conference for worrying about beating up on each other. It's tough to go .500 in that conference and then get yourself into the Big Dance.

kkep48 · 05-17-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill

you might want to reword this. Last year, Duke had the 3 hardest SOS while Carolina came in at 8th. Duke faced the likes of Marquette, Indiana, Gonzaga, Georgetown, and George Mason. Carolina went up against Gonzaga, us, Ohio State, Kentucky, Penn, and Winthrop.

You can't blame the coaches in such a basketball loaded conference for worrying about beating up on each other. It's tough to go .500 in that conference and then get yourself into the Big Dance.

I'm just saying it's pathetic that they are crying for possbily having to play 2 more conference games instead of beating up on some no-name. Yes, both of those schools played some very good teams, but they also played some very bad ones as well. I guarantee you if they had to play those 2 extra conference games, they would not be playing the big-name schools as often, it would be a cupcake.

volfanbill · 05-17-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kkep48

I'm just saying it's pathetic that they are crying for possbily having to play 2 more conference games instead of beating up on some no-name. Yes, both of those schools played some very good teams, but they also played some very bad ones as well. I guarantee you if they had to play those 2 extra conference games, they would not be playing the big-name schools as often, it would be a cupcake.

again you're missing the point. Florida State, Maryland, Georgia Tech, NC State, Wake Forest, Clemson, etc are already struggling to make the tourney because the ACC is so loaded in conference play. Making conference play that much harder is just going to hurt their NCAA bid chances even more. Everyone schedules scrubs. But the selection committee loves to look at OOC schedule strength as a determining factor for who gets in. So now, not only will ACC teams have one of, if not the toughest conference schedules, they'll have to schedule the most difficult OOC schedule as well.

**hatvol96** · 05-17-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kkep48

I find it ridiculous that the ACC basketball coaches are trying to prevent the conference from expanding its conference schedule from 16 to 18 conference games. They say it will prevent them from scheduling quality, high-profile non-conference games. That, in itself, is the most absurd thing I've heard. The likes of Duke and North Carolina continually load up on teams like UNC-Asheville and other 30-pt blowout teams. ACC coaches are some of the biggest whiners in the country and proving over and over again that they are afraid of their own shadows.

The SEC only plays 16 conference games. Are they afraid of their own shadows?

TennNC · 05-17-2007, 01:26 PM

I don't blame the coaches at all. Their SOS are usually amongst the toughest. But besides that, every team needs to play some less competitive teams - it's also good for those schools too.

Imagine what SEC football coaches would do if the conference said they had to play just 1 more conference game. Think UT would want to trade in a Wyoming or Akron for an Ole Miss or Auburn?

Vol423 · 05-17-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kkep48

I'm just saying it's pathetic that they are crying for possbily having to play 2 more conference games instead of beating up on some no-name. Yes, both of those schools played some very good teams, but they also played some very bad ones as well. I guarantee you if they had to play those 2 extra conference games, they would not be playing the big-name schools as often, it would be a cupcake.

That's absolute crap. Duke and Carolina consistently play among the most difficult schedules in the nation. Duke and Carolina also voted against the additions of Boston College and Virginia Tech to the ACC conference because they didn't like the scheduling changes that would result from the addition of these two teams (not being able to play all conference teams twice a year in basketball). They have been consistent in their criticism, and they WOULD have to sacrifice big-time non-conference games in their schedule if they made this change. That would be detrimental to the teams, the conference, other conferences, and basketfall fans in general.

As stated by a previous poster, all teams play some cupcakes. You don’t believe me? Take a look at UT’s schedule last year. Tennessee played the following teams last year during the regular season that would be considered cupcakes by your definition: Middle Tennessee State, Fordham, UNC-Wilmington, Coppin State, Louisiana Lafayette, Murray State, Western Kentucky, Tennessee Tech, and East Tennessee State. That’s 9 cupcakes. Don't throw stones if you're living in a glass house.

dantheman617 · 05-28-2007, 10:40 AM

duke, carolina and other ACC teams have difficult out of conference schedules are hard. Yes, they do have some blowout games like UNC Ashville, but then again who does not schedule some of those. You gotta remember they play the bigten vs acc tournament every year. So they will play Indiana, Illinois, etc every single year.

**jakez4ut** · 05-29-2007, 12:10 PM

this was proposed so they could play the non divison teams more than once per season......when the ACC split in to two divisions, a lot of traditional ACC fans, alum, and the universities themsleves hated the fact that they wouldn't get to play the teams from the otehr division more than once like they used to.