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volfanbill 04-21-2007 10:33 AM

i guess what i'm saying is you stay on the same plane you started out with. the club is level with the ground at impact, the same spot it was when you began your address. if you're still hitting down at impact, you're in trouble.

GAVol 04-21-2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill (Post 681814)
if you're still hitting down at impact, you're in trouble.

Not really . . . I guess it depends on what club you are hitting, but I'd say that for good players - with mid/short irons especially - typically the "bottom" of the swing occurs AFTER impact.

Some players have "swept" everything - most notably Greg Norman - but those guys are few and far between.

volfanbill 04-21-2007 10:42 AM

i wholeheartedly disagree, but i'm beginning to think it's just the way i'm defining your wordings... if you're wanting extra distance that is a way to go, but you're losing the point of the loft of the club that way. i don't sweep the ball, I get under it and have a higher trajectory for most players of my handicap, i'll admit that. Too many golfers see coming down as extra distance, but you lose the bounce of the club and the ability to make it stick.

GAVol 04-21-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill (Post 681820)
i wholeheartedly disagree, but i'm beginning to think it's just the way i'm defining your wordings...

Just another illustration of why there are about 10,000 different theories on how to hit a golf ball. Who's to say what's right or wrong as long as it works for somebody? :ok:

GAVol 04-21-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill (Post 681820)
i don't sweep the ball, I get under it

Personally, I find that a lot more dangerous than hitting down on the ball. Do you by chance tend to hit a lot of shots thin? And honestly, I've never considered "bounce" to be much of a factor with any club other than a Wedge.

What's your handicap? Just interested . . . Mundane things like swing theory fascinate me.

volfanbill 04-21-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GAVol (Post 681825)
Personally, I find that a lot more dangerous than hitting down on the ball. Do you by chance tend to hit a lot of shots thin?

What's your handicap? Just interested . . . Mundane things like swing theory fascinate me.

nope... if i do make a mistake, it's hitting it fat. i take the big thick divot out on my swings... however, the divot starts just slightly before where the golf ball was. also, it should be noted that different soils help create bigger or smaller divots. coastal and more northern soils create bigger divots than say Appalachain soil.

GAVol 04-21-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill (Post 681826)
the divot starts just slightly before where the golf ball was.

I'm dying to know what you are shooting. That sounds like a recipe for inconsistent ball striking - unless you are a Moe Norman disciple or something.

volfanbill 04-21-2007 10:57 AM

last time i truly kept track of my handicap it was a seven, which was about a year and a half ago. however, up until about two weeks ago i had only been able to play about 6 times in a year's span and so i'm sure it's a lot higher right now.

volfanbill 04-21-2007 11:04 AM

here's a tip.... don't play softball all spring, summer, and fall without playing golf at all and then expect to just have your golf swing in your pocket. i played last week and shot a freaking 91. i about blew a gasket.

Lexvol 04-21-2007 11:27 AM

I actually hit the ball much further with my irons when I hit down on the ball.

volfanbill 04-21-2007 11:45 AM

just out of curiousity lex, can you get them to stop?

GAVol 04-21-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexvol (Post 681840)
I actually hit the ball much further with my irons when I hit down on the ball.

Just as you should. Hitting down causes the club to de-loft and swing speed to maximiaze.

GAVol 04-21-2007 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by volfanbill (Post 681832)
here's a tip.... don't play softball all spring, summer, and fall without playing golf at all and then expect to just have your golf swing in your pocket. i played last week and shot a freaking 91. i about blew a gasket.

I go through the same thing. I don't practice enough anymore to shoot really low numbers, but I can usually get it together just well enough to make my expectations get way ahead of my ability.:banghead2:

JTrainDavis 04-21-2007 01:33 PM

I practiced checking up balls at the range today, actually did a fair job, all the way as high as with a 6-iron. Could get a slight back-kick with anything higher than 8, and with the 6-8 i only got a short bounce (around 10 ft) and a good stop.

A winter's worth of hitting the wiffle-styled practice balls out in the garage seems to have paid off somewhat. 18 Tomorrow afternoon will show how well.

JTrainDavis 04-21-2007 01:39 PM

I've went back in time to the Tommy Armour 845's. They were my 2nd set if irons, sold them and upgraded twice, but i couldn't get the same feel back from impact. So, after $1300 for 2 sets that didn't ever feel right, i got a 2-LW set of 845's on ebay for $120 shipping included. a few hundred for shafts and grips, and i'm loving it.

I have a R-7 Clone driver, i really like it, but have a difficult time corraling it, to cheap to pay a pro to give me some help. So i generally drive with my trusty 4-iron. I can hit it dead straight out to about 215, which is all i need to meet my expectations, assuming I can 2 putt every hole...4 Iron, 5-7 Iron, Wedge, 2 putts=Bogey 5...ugly but it works


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