Reason #1,000,000 to hate Bud Selig....

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by milohimself

It's not universal. The Mariners have a small but hardcore fanbase (but much financial backing from Japan because of Ichiro). I've been to southern Caifornia a number of times, and haven't seen very much support at all for those teams outside of latin communities. It does produce good numbers people-wise, but there is no big long term money in latin communities.

I'm not sure how you draw 3 million plus a season with a "small but hardcore fanbase."

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by milohimself

Will the Marlins ever get their own park?

I think they will eventually get a retractable roof stadium near, or on, the Orange Bowl site. I think the city is on the verge of pulling the plug on the OB.

[Business]

Originally Posted by hatvol96

I think they will eventually get a retractable roof stadium near, or on, the Orange Bowl site. I think the city is on the verge of pulling the plug on the OB.

You believe all that stuff in SI about the OB being underwater and such. If you read it.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by hatvol96

I'm not sure how you draw 3 million plus a season with a "small but hardcore fanbase."

Seattle hasn't drawn 3 million in 4 years. They drew less than 2.5 million in 2006 and ranked 15th.

[milohimself]

There's also the question of why the world series is on so damn late? That time slot only works for the west coast... When the vast majority of people in the US live out east, not to mention the elite teams. The White Sox, Red Sox, Yankees, Cardinals, etc. Anaheim has been the only consistent WS contender out west.

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by Business

You believe all that stuff in SI about the OB being underwater and such. If you read it.

I was at the OB multiple times for 'Canes games this year. It's not underwater, it's simply a dump.

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by milohimself

Seattle hasn't drawn 3 million in 4 years. They drew less than 2.5 million in 2006 and ranked 15th.

2.5 million to watch a terrible team. That doesn't suggest they have a fanbase problem.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by hatvol96

I was at the OB multiple times for 'Canes games this year. It's not underwater, it's simply a dump.

You can't do that in the OB, baby! They're from across the ocean, over there.

Couldn't read about the OB without thinking of that quote.

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by milohimself

There's also the question of why the world series is on so damn late? That time slot only works for the west coast... When the vast majority of people in the US live out east, not to mention the elite teams. The White Sox, Red Sox, Yankees, Cardinals, etc. Anaheim has been the only consistent WS contender out west.

Advertisers pay more for commercial time that touches all time zones. People act like the ratings for the World Series have something to do withn when the games start. Ratings are driven by the teams participating. Nobody in Miami gives a flip about a Tigers-Cardinals World Series. Any Series that doesn't have a New York team is going to appear to fall short in the ratings.

[Business]

Originally Posted by hatvol96

I was at the OB multiple times for 'Canes games this year. It's not underwater, it's simply a dump.

It was taking into account global warming. It had like 20+ stadiums in the world that, according to some scientist, will be underwater at some point. Someone ganked my copy the other day so I have no material to reference.

Dolphins Stadium was also in there. Hell I think all of Miami was.

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by milohimself

They're from across the ocean, over there.
quote.

I remember hearing that after getting home after that game and thinking, "When did FIU move their campus to Madrid?"

[milohimself]

Despite all this... I still wish Portland would get a baseball team. 2.1 million in the Metro area, and a hop, skip and a jump away from Eugene and Tacoma.

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by Business

It was taking into account global warming. It had like 20+ stadiums in the world that, according to some scientist, will be underwater at some point. Someone ganked my copy the other day so I have no material to reference.

Dolphins Stadium was also in there. Hell I think all of Miami was.

That would explain the riddiculous Dontelle Willis cover photo. I took that issue out of the mailbox, looked at the Table of Contents, and deposited it in the trash. If I want to hear junk science passed off as fact, I'll go see Al Gore's documentary.

[Business]

hatvol, you might find this interesting. It's nice and has charts and such.

Sports Fanbase of South Florida

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by hatvol96

Advertisers pay more for commercial time that touches all time zones. People act like the ratings for the World Series have something to do withn when the games start. Ratings are driven by the teams participating. Nobody in Miami gives a flip about a Tigers-Cardinals World Series. Any Series that doesn't have a New York team is going to appear to fall short in the ratings.

Yeah... You know it's bad when guys on programs like Cold Pizza refer to cities like Detroit and St. Louis as "Small market." Of course, New York, Philly, Chicago, Dallas and Los Angeles are free from such nomenclature.