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Originally Posted by milohimself I do agree with the part about the Japanese. They have proven to be able to produce every bit as much talent as white and latino communities in the western hemisphere. Not to mention baseball is to Japan as the NFL is to the US.
There a few things to be said about that young demographic now, though... I know that at least on the west coast, the only big baseball fans seem to be the pocket hardcores, and those in Latino communities. Despite this, the premier events and such seem to be broadcasted at an unreasonably late hour for the east coast and central US, where the baseball following seems to be far larger than it is out west.
There's also a few things like the DirecTV deal, etc. | The DirecTV deal was a stroke of genius. Cable is a dying technology. MLB has aligned themselves with the proper broadcast partner. |
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04-05-2007, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Business True. I knew something was up when Brady Anderson dropped 50 bombs. He was on roids, also Javy Lopez got on them in his free agent (43 HR, 100+ RBI) season. There is no doubt in my mind. | Brady Anderson is the poster child for the steroids era. |
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04-05-2007, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by milohimself True. Steroids have been part of the fabric of MLB since they were invented, and amphetamines go back even further than that. However, Bud Selig will at least be remembered as the guy who was in charge at the time people actually started caring that players have been drugging. I don't say it's his fault, that's just the way it is. | That's the thing. Other than a few sanctimonious douches in the media and some attention whore members of Congress, nobody cares about the steroid issue. |
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04-05-2007, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by milohimself I do agree with the part about the Japanese. They have proven to be able to produce every bit as much talent as white and latino communities in the western hemisphere. Not to mention baseball is to Japan as the NFL is to the US.
There a few things to be said about that young demographic now, though... I know that at least on the west coast, the only big baseball fans seem to be the pocket hardcores, and those in Latino communities. Despite this, the premier events and such seem to be broadcasted at an unreasonably late hour for the east coast and central US, where the baseball following seems to be far larger than it is out west.
There's also a few things like the DirecTV deal, etc. | MLB is trying hard to get the African American demographic back into play. I've seen alot of articles about that, added with the Jackie Robinson celebrations, and Civil Rights games. |
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04-05-2007, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by milohimself I do agree with the part about the Japanese. They have proven to be able to produce every bit as much talent as white and latino communities in the western hemisphere. Not to mention baseball is to Japan as the NFL is to the US.
There a few things to be said about that young demographic now, though... I know that at least on the west coast, the only big baseball fans seem to be the pocket hardcores, and those in Latino communities. Despite this, the premier events and such seem to be broadcasted at an unreasonably late hour for the east coast and central US, where the baseball following seems to be far larger than it is out west.
There's also a few things like the DirecTV deal, etc. | If nobody on the West Coast cares, explain why the Dodgers, Angels, Mariners, Giants, and Padres all are among the leaders in attendance. |
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 That's the thing. Other than a few sanctimonious douches in the media and some attention whore members of Congress, nobody cares about the steroid issue. | Jay Mariotti |
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| For what, satellite dishes? I tend to think that might be a regional thing. I know a broad variety of people who have tried out Dish Network and DirecTV, and literally all of them took less than a year to switch back to a cable service. Granted, the reason is local. Choosing a dish in the wintertime in the PNW is choosing to be inable to watch TV.
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04-05-2007, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 If nobody on the West Coast cares, explain why the Dodgers, Angels, Mariners, Giants, and Padres all are among the leaders in attendance. | Your from South Florida aren't you? Why does no one give a damn about the Marlins? |
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Originally Posted by milohimself For what, satellite dishes? I tend to think that might be a regional thing. I know a broad variety of people who have tried out Dish Network and DirecTV, and literally all of them took less than a year to switch back to a cable service. Granted, the reason is local. Choosing a dish in the wintertime in the PNW is choosing to be inable to watch TV. | DirecTV subscriptions continue to grow at exponential rates. Cable is dying at a similar, if not faster, rate. |
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Originally Posted by milohimself For what, satellite dishes? I tend to think that might be a regional thing. I know a broad variety of people who have tried out Dish Network and DirecTV, and literally all of them took less than a year to switch back to a cable service. Granted, the reason is local. Choosing a dish in the wintertime in the PNW is choosing to be inable to watch TV. | I always thought a "Monday Night Baseball" on Network Television would be cool. I'm sure, no one would watch. |
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04-05-2007, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 DirecTV subscriptions continue to grow at exponential rates. Cable is dying at a similar, if not faster, rate. | Cable is ridiclious. I pay the same thing as my DirectTV customer buddy and he gets a load more stations. A good 35% of my channels are "Shop at homes, local television, spanish channel, religious channels, C-span, and Lifetime" |
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 If nobody on the West Coast cares, explain why the Dodgers, Angels, Mariners, Giants, and Padres all are among the leaders in attendance. | It's not universal. The Mariners have a small but hardcore fanbase (but much financial backing from Japan because of Ichiro). I've been to southern Caifornia a number of times, and haven't seen very much support at all for those teams outside of latin communities. It does produce good numbers people-wise, but there is no big long term money in latin communities.
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04-05-2007, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Business Your from South Florida aren't you? Why does no one give a damn about the Marlins? | Nobody that lives here is from here. Look at the attendance numbers when the Yankees, Mets, or Red Sox come down here. The baseball fans here are loyal to the teams of their youth. Also, I've been to just about every stadium in MLB and have no problem saying Dolphins Staium is easily the worst place in America to watch a ballgame. It was built with football in mind and it's in the middle of nowhere. |
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04-05-2007, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Nobody that lives here is from here. Look at the attendance numbers when the Yankees, Mets, or Red Sox come down here. The baseball fans here are loyal to the teams of their youth. Also, I've been to just about every stadium in MLB and have no problem saying Dolphins Staium is easily the worst place in America to watch a ballgame. It was built with football in mind and it's in the middle of nowhere. | True. Southern Yankees. |
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Nobody that lives here is from here. Look at the attendance numbers when the Yankees, Mets, or Red Sox come down here. The baseball fans here are loyal to the teams of their youth. Also, I've been to just about every stadium in MLB and have no problem saying Dolphins Staium is easily the worst place in America to watch a ballgame. It was built with football in mind and it's in the middle of nowhere. | Will the Marlins ever get their own park?
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