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Old 04-02-2007, 02:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I had a disagreement with some Laker fans. I said that I would rather build a team around Shaq than K. Bryant and they said I was crazy. The one guy kept saying "I sold Laker tickets for a long time and everyone hated Shaq." Whatever, I pick the daddy.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As of right now: Kobe

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Old 04-02-2007, 02:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How many championships have the Lakers won since Shaq left?
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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How many championships have the Lakers won since Shaq left?
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How many championships have the Lakers won since Shaq left?
True... although it's a little unfair to Kobe. If Kobe left, do you believe Shaq would've won more titles with the Lakers?
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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How many championships have the Lakers won since Shaq left?
Beat me to it. I was going to say who has more rings?
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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True... although it's a little unfair to Kobe. If Kobe left, do you believe Shaq would've won more titles with the Lakers?
If the Lakers surrounded Shaq with Caron Butler and Lamar Odom, absolutely.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If the Lakers surrounded Shaq with Caron Butler and Lamar Odom, absolutely.
Not buying it. I really dislike Kobe, but there's no way Shaq wins any championships with the Lakers current roster. Kobe needed Shaq just as Shaq needed Kobe. Kobe was replaced by D. Wade for Shaq. Shaq was replaced by Kwame Brown for Kobe. Like I said, it's just a little unfair.

Don't get me wrong, though. I do believe Kobe needed Shaq a little more than Shaq needed Kobe.
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Not buying it. I really dislike Kobe, but there's no way Shaq wins any championships with the Lakers current roster. Kobe needed Shaq just as Shaq needed Kobe. Kobe was replaced by D. Wade for Shaq. Shaq was replaced by Kwame Brown for Kobe. Like I said, it's just a little unfair.

Don't get me wrong, though. I do believe Kobe needed Shaq a little more than Shaq needed Kobe.
No, the Lakers stupidly traded Caron Butler for Kwame Brown. A team with Shaq, Butler, and Odom would be an immediate contender.
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No, the Lakers stupidly traded Caron Butler for Kwame Brown. A team with Shaq, Butler, and Odom would be an immediate contender.
Contender? Maybe. Champions? Don't think so.
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People debating this on the side of Kobe are modern day entertainment seekers who love the Top 10 segment type stuff. Kobe is clearly better for the top 10 plays, but for Dynasty building - please. Look at any historically dominant franchise in the NBA and tell me which ones didn't have great centers. I think Chicago would be the only one and they had MJ with incredible D. That Chicago squad couldn't have beaten the Lakers and Celtics of the 80s and would have struggled mightily with Shaq's Lakers.
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People debating this on the side of Kobe are modern day entertainment seekers who love the Top 10 segment type stuff. Kobe is clearly better for the top 10 plays, but for Dynasty building - please. Look at any historically dominant franchise in the NBA and tell me which ones didn't have great centers. I think Chicago would be the only one and they had MJ with incredible D. That Chicago squad couldn't have beaten the Lakers and Celtics of the 80s and would have struggled mightily with Shaq's Lakers.
Chicago didn't beat the Pistons until Detroit started to get old.
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