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Old 06-09-2017, 04:25 PM   #256
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Larry Legend is the greatest ever. Not sure why this is even a thread.
I met a guy in Florida who said he had to guard Larry in a college scrimmage once. Said he did pretty good to only give up 60 to him bc most times he would score 70+ in those contests.
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:01 PM   #257
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Ah, I wasn't thinking about doubling and tripling them up. Gotcha. I'd put Iggy in. Fwiw
Iggy may be one of the most underappreciated players ever. He has 1 all-star appearance and no appearances on any all-NBA team, or all-defensive team. That's just crazy.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:32 PM   #258
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Iggy may be one of the most underappreciated players ever. He has 1 all-star appearance and no appearances on any all-NBA team, or all-defensive team. That's just crazy.
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Iggy may be one of the most underappreciated players ever. He has 1 all-star appearance and no appearances on any all-NBA team, or all-defensive team. That's just crazy.
I agree, huge Iggy fan. That is insane, I didn't know he hadn't at least made one all-defensive team.
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Old 06-09-2017, 09:32 PM   #260
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Iggy may be one of the most underappreciated players ever. He has 1 all-star appearance and no appearances on any all-NBA team, or all-defensive team. That's just crazy.
If he had a consistent jump shot he'd be a multiple all nba guy. Very underrated player for a long time
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:01 PM   #261
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How many times did Jordan face a better team?
This. Jordan was 6-for-6 in Finals appearances, but the Bulls were clearly the better squad in each of those series. Now, them having Jordan was a big reason why they were the better team, but having Jordan alone would not have automatically made them the favorite.

As easy as it is to rag on LeBron, in all of the Finals he has played in, how many times has he objectively (as much as can be determined) played on the better team?
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:20 PM   #262
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If he had a consistent jump shot he'd be a multiple all nba guy. Very underrated player for a long time
True, and just evidence that these types of considerations (across all sports, not just the NBA) are biased towards offense.

If you have Hall of Fame offensive talent and either don't play or don't care to play a lick of defense, you get into the HoF, no questions asked.

If you have Hall of Fame defensive talent and make little, if any, offensive contributions, you only get the recognition you deserve if you complement a superstar who does score, like Rodman did with Jordan.
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Old 06-12-2017, 03:09 PM   #263
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I think basketball is a game that favors offensive value, though (strictly speaking in terms of an individual's impact on a game). Big men can probably have equal value on both ends of the floor (if not more value on D), because of how important working the glass and defending the paint is....but for a perimeter defender, it's hard to equal the impact that a wing can have on offense. If you're good enough to shut down your man, the opponent just stops going at you, whereas they have to go in the paint and can't avoid the big.
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:59 AM   #264
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If Lebron had MJ's mid range game especially the fall away jumper from 15 he'd be unstoppable. Problem is he is dribble drive or spot 3. MJ still the Goat
He is also a better defender
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If he has 2 more games like game 1, it hurts. If he as two more games like game 2, his legend grows in my mind.
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On the cover of Sports Illustrated as a high school teenager, James has stayed largely scandal-free in a social media age where that's easier said than done. Jordan might have broken the internet with his gambling trip to Atlantic City before Game 2 of the 1993 Eastern Conference finals against the Knicks.

Jordan's legendary drive, competitiveness and assassin-like performances will stand the test of time forevermore. James' accomplishments will too.

Basketball fans should feel fortunate to sit back and watch another legendary No. 23 go to work.
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Old 06-14-2017, 02:36 PM   #269
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This was the quote by Theodore Roosevelt the Lebron referenced last week. "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
This can be applied to Lebron, MJ, Kobe, or anyone really. Unless you played at a high level in the NBA which I'm pretty sure none of us on here ( except for fake Travis Stephens on the football forum lol) have, we are all just critics of something we could never do.
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