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01-11-2007, 09:19 AM
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| Bonds Failed Drug test in 2006
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01-11-2007, 12:32 PM
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| Shocked on both counts.
I can't believe Barry would use drugs or blame someone else for his problems like the media, his trainer, or a teammate.........
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01-11-2007, 12:39 PM
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| Bonds is a total loser...enoug said! |
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01-11-2007, 12:45 PM
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| Bonds*
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01-11-2007, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hohenfelsvol Bonds* | Do we put asterisks next to the accomplishments of Pete Rose, Mickey Mantle, Mike Schmidt, and about 1,000 other players who have freely admitted using greenies at some point in their career? The Bonds Haters better hope this isn't the only failed test, because if it is, they'll either have to give Barry a pass or expose themselves as the duplicitous swine they are. |
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01-11-2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Do we put asterisks next to the accomplishments of Pete Rose, Mickey Mantle, Mike Schmidt, and about 1,000 other players who have freely admitted using greenies at some point in their career? The Bonds Haters better hope this isn't the only failed test, because if it is, they'll either have to give Barry a pass or expose themselves as the duplicitous swine they are. | Short answer is yes.
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01-11-2007, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Do we put asterisks next to the accomplishments of Pete Rose, Mickey Mantle, Mike Schmidt, and about 1,000 other players who have freely admitted using greenies at some point in their career? The Bonds Haters better hope this isn't the only failed test, because if it is, they'll either have to give Barry a pass or expose themselves as the duplicitous swine they are. | the problem is that it is Barry Bonds....it just seems to never end. and something that may not technically seem to be a big deal or that it was commonplace among other atheletes doesn't matter.
perception is reality........and his track record is not getting any better. not saying i agree with it or not, but certainly understand the mentality associated with it. blood in the water mentality.
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01-11-2007, 01:23 PM
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| is it any wonder why baseball has been voted out of the summer Olympics? with all the drug testing done by the IOC, MLB players who are on the juice and other drugs don't dare participate.
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01-11-2007, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Do we put asterisks next to the accomplishments of Pete Rose, Mickey Mantle, Mike Schmidt, and about 1,000 other players who have freely admitted using greenies at some point in their career? The Bonds Haters better hope this isn't the only failed test, because if it is, they'll either have to give Barry a pass or expose themselves as the duplicitous swine they are. | Were those drugs banned from baseball when those guys used them?
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01-11-2007, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tidwell Were those drugs banned from baseball when those guys used them? | Nope, just like steroids weren't banned when Bonds, Sosa,McGwire, et al allegedly used them. |
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01-11-2007, 02:11 PM
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| they were illegal even if they weren't specifically banned by baseball.
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01-11-2007, 02:13 PM
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| Steroids were, however, illegal.
In the court of public opinion, this makes Barry Bonds' testimony look even more like a lie.
Granted, so many players who are loved by fans (mostly white) have used amphetamines and have received no backlash, nor would they. It's wrong.
In the end, this story isn't surprising, nor does it change my opinion of Barry Bonds or any player post .... 1980. It just sucks to know that when you watch sports now, you can be pretty sure you're not seeing real, human athletic achievements.
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01-11-2007, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 they were illegal even if they weren't specifically banned by baseball. | Then the criminal justice system handles it. Baseball, on the other hand, had no rules. Therefore, sanctimonious rubes and half wit sportswriters need to shut the holy hell up. |
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01-11-2007, 02:30 PM
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| ahh, the Al Gore defense, "there was no controlling legal authority"
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01-11-2007, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 ahh, the Al Gore defense, "there was no controlling legal authority" | You can't violate rules that don't exist. |
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