Let the Whining Officially Commence! - Page 3

**kptvol** · 12-03-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by volinbham

It is basically the same thing. Then there were 3 teams that were undefeated. OU was from the Big 12 which was strong that year. Auburn had a claim but if they were chosen then OU would have a claim too.

Same thing here. 2 teams that each have a claim, 1 gets chosen and the other is left out.

Maybe UF is the better team but the situations certainly are analogous.

Navigating the big 10 with one loss is not that hard. Wisconsin proved that. Auburn beat quite a few big time teams in 2004.

**tidwell** · 12-03-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vol423

Michigan lost to Ohio State and didn't drop a single spot in the BCS rankings. That has never happened in the history of college football

That's still amazing to me.

Vol423 · 12-03-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by volinbham

It is basically the same thing. Then there were 3 teams that were undefeated. OU was from the Big 12 which was strong that year. Auburn had a claim but if they were chosen then OU would have a claim too.

Same thing here. 2 teams that each have a claim, 1 gets chosen and the other is left out.

Maybe UF is the better team but the situations certainly are analogous.

No it isn't. Auburn was undefeated. Nobody could look at Auburn and say, "You know what? They had a chance to do more, but they lost that game to Ohio State." Auburn also went undefeated in the toughest conference in the nation. That's not the case with Michigan.

Florida and Michigan are in somewhat analogous situations this year. I think that Florida was more deserving of a national title shot than Michigan, but the truth of the matter is that they both lost a game, and therefore, put themselves at the mercy of our screwed up system. Auburn was undefeated. They won the toughest conference in college football. There was absolutely NOTHING that they could have done better. Neither Florida nor Michigan are in a situation analogous to Auburn.

**kptvol** · 12-03-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tidwell

That's still amazing to me.

Remember when USC barely beat Notre Dame last year and Herbstreet was calling for ND to go up in the rankings? If you lose, you should move down at least one spot, unless everyone behind you also loses.

**oklavol** · 12-03-2006, 10:42 PM

Everyone says the same thing. Bring us a playoff.

Ever other college or professional sport decides its champion based on a tournament or playoff except college football. They can make a playoff work in the NFL or in Div 11 football, but they cant make that sytem work at the Div 1 level?

Greed and politics are trying to ruin college football. Texas one year removed from winning the NC with a 9-3 record and top 20 ranking are playing 6-6 Iowa in a bowl game. Basically being penalized for winning the NC last year because bowls dont think they will travel well. The system is about one thing, enriching the people who created the bowls.

**tidwell** · 12-03-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kptvol

Remember when USC barely beat Notre Dame last year and Herbstreet was calling for ND to go up in the rankings? If you lose, you should move down at least one spot, unless everyone behind you also loses.

The "style points" epidemic, even in losses, is getting a bit out of control...

Vol423 · 12-03-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by oklavol

Everyone says the same thing. Bring us a playoff.

Ever other college or professional sport decides its champion based on a tournament or playoff except college football. They can make a playoff work in the NFL or in Div 11 football, but they cant make that sytem work at the Div 1 level?

Greed and politics are trying to ruin college football. Texas one year removed from winning the NC with a 9-3 record and top 20 ranking are playing 6-6 Iowa in a bowl game. Basically being penalized for winning the NC last year because bowls dont think they will travel well. The system is about one thing, enriching the people who created the bowls.

It's hard to feel too bad for Texas. I mean, they do suck this year.

slwlion · 12-03-2006, 10:52 PM

Ahhhh ! ya'll are new to Carr and Meatchicken whining..It never ends...Looking forward to a great Bowl game and no injuries...

P.S. I'm a Penn State Alum by choice a Southerner by birth..

cotton · 12-03-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

By the way, the game is on my birthday.

Happy early birthday. Sorry to say, LG, but if I had a vote, I would have cast it for Michigan, mainly due to the fact that I watched the SC and Vandy games in their entirety. However, I can certainly understand why it worked out like it did.

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Originally Posted by milohimself

Wojciechowski always seems to be pissed about something. Let it go.

I wonder how many times you had to look at the name "Wojciechowski" to make sure you spelled it correctly. I'll bet that kid was in the seventh grade before he could write it.

**kptvol** · 12-03-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oklavol

Everyone says the same thing. Bring us a playoff.

Ever other college or professional sport decides its champion based on a tournament or playoff except college football. They can make a playoff work in the NFL or in Div 11 football, but they cant make that sytem work at the Div 1 level?

Greed and politics are trying to ruin college football. Texas one year removed from winning the NC with a 9-3 record and top 20 ranking are playing 6-6 Iowa in a bowl game. Basically being penalized for winning the NC last year because bowls dont think they will travel well. The system is about one thing, enriching the people who created the bowls.

Apparently college football was ruined 100 years ago or so when bowls first came into being. Give me a break.

Volunteer_Kirby · 12-03-2006, 11:48 PM

Michigan had their chance. They didn't capitlalize on it, Florida shouldn't fall victim just because they didn't.

Bring that trophy back to the SEC.

Go Gators

MG1968 · 12-04-2006, 01:19 AM

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but to me this is real simple, if you don't win your conference title, you shouldn't be eligible to play for the NC.

That said, it should be required that the BCS conferences have title games.

**volinbham** · 12-04-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Volunteer_Kirby

Michigan had their chance. They didn't capitlalize on it, Florida shouldn't fall victim just because they didn't.

Florida had their chance to go undefeated - they didn't. Michigan lost to the #1 team in the country.

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Originally Posted by MG1968

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but to me this is real simple, if you don't win your conference title, you shouldn't be eligible to play for the NC.

Not part of the formula now. Didn't hold true for OU a few years back.

allvol123 · 12-04-2006, 12:24 PM

[quote=volinbham;501085]Florida had their chance to go undefeated - they didn't. Michigan lost to the #1 team in the country.

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Michigan had their chance to go undefeated as well, and they didn't. In fact they had a clearer shot to the NT game as anyone and they blew it.

therealUT · 12-04-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vol423

I loved the part near the end of the story where the writer claimed that the Vanderbilt coaching staff (who played both Michigan and Florida) told him, privately of course, that Michigan is the better team between Michigan and Florida.

Notice that he didn't quote any of the Vanderbilt coaches, but he notes that they told him this privately. Why do I get the feeling that this writer is making this crap up? If it was supposed to be off the record, then he shouldn't have mentioned it at all. If it was on the record, then why didn't he quote them directly? This is yet another example of the piss poor writing and commentary offered by ESPN.

Considering the fact that Michigan beat Vandy by 20 and Florida beat Vandy by 6, do you honestly believe that Vandy's staff feels Florida is the better team???