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Old 12-02-2006, 12:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Alabama's FB National Championships......

This goes to show you how little the media does its research. Every sports caster proclaims the Tide's 12 NCs, but in reality I bet not one of them can tell you how those so-called NCs were derived. Well I can tell you because I got the information from Alabama's Sports Information department. Here is the breakdown of the Tide's supposedly 12 NCs:

Voted NC by Associated Press - 6
Voted NC by Litten House Rating Service - 2
Voted NC by Dukel Rating Service - 1
Voted NC by Williamson Rating Service - 1
Voted NC by The Helms FB Foundation - 1
Voted NC by The New York Times - 1

Total claimed NCs - 12

As you can see Alabama has never "won" any national titles but merely have been voted and really only 6 times have they been voted NC by a national media source - that being the Associated Press. Yet the current media/sportecasters/Alabama players/fan would have you believe that they have won 12 titles granted by the highest authority.

Now if you consider all the various sources who have proclaimed NCs to So. Cal/Notre Dame these schools each could claim 14 NCs. Tennessee was awarded the NC in 1951 by the Associated Press and in 1998 by the BCS/AP. The Vols were also voted NCs in 1938 {Littenhouse/Dukel}, 1939 {Dukel/Williamson}, 1940 {Littenhouse/Dukel}, 1956 {Dukel} and 1967 {Dukel/Littenhouse}. Therefore, using all the sources claimed by Alabama, Tennessee has 7 NCs. IF you use only the Associated Press/BCS then Tennessee would have 2 NCs and Alabama would have 6 NCs. However, Dukel/Littenhouse/Williamson Rating Services are accepted by the NCAA and are reflected in their records. However, 2 of Alabama's sources - Helms FB Foundation/New York Times are not accepted by the NCAA and therefore according to NCAA records Alabama is credited with only 10 NCs - not the 12 they claim.
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um, what is the highest authority?
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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\ As you can see Alabama has never "won" any national titles but merely have been voted and really only 6 times have they been voted NC by a national media source - that being the Associated Press.
If you want to use that logic, then UT has only "won" 1 national championship.
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Unless you've just been born the highest authority...

until the BCS was the UPI [United Press International}/Associated Press not some corner drugstore or rag tag mazagine/newspaper.
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until the BCS was the UPI [United Press International}/Associated Press not some corner drugstore or rag tag mazagine/newspaper.
What?
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How in blazes do you get one NC or what part of.....

being voted NC in 1951 by the Associated Press and winning the BCS NC in 1998 and btw also voted by the AP in '98 as well don't you get. I don't know where you learned math but 1+1 = 2. However, Alabama boy I guess you didn't pick that up in tideland.
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being voted NC in 1951 by the Associated Press and winning the BCS NC in 1998 and btw also voted by the AP in '98 as well don't you get. I don't know where you learned math but 1+1 = 2. However, Alabama boy I guess you didn't pick that up in tideland.
When you learn English, I'll accept your criticism. You stated that Bama hadn't won a national title, because they'd only gotten their championships as a result of voting. The same can be said for 5 of UT's titles. The only one we "won" by your earlier reasoning is the '98 BCS championship.

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um, what is the highest authority?
I am.

Or didn't you read my rendition of the same information presented here:

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenne...onships-2.html

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being voted NC in 1951 by the Associated Press and winning the BCS NC in 1998 and btw also voted by the AP in '98 as well don't you get. I don't know where you learned math but 1+1 = 2. However, Alabama boy I guess you didn't pick that up in tideland.
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Old 12-02-2006, 08:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
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and Princeton has 24, Yale has 19, Notre Dame 12....all meaningless since the BCS. Who won the first BCS Championship? Oh! that's right the VOLS....
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