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Old 01-12-2013, 12:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Only to run a man in the ground. It's what America has become. An entitlement, hypocritical, pussified, liberal nation.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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In the fact if he had admitted it in the beginning & played the cancer card he would be loved. Instead he denied it & millions of dollars are wasted to run the man in the ground after he retires from a sport plagued by doping. Just like baseball. The system was broke but instead of just fixing it they wanna punish the successful dopers. The guys doping & finishing 13th or batting .236 don't ever get mentioned.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Honestly at this point I don't care. I think a lot of people feel the same way
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The honest ones.
There weren't any.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Only the ones that got caught & wanted to take everybody else down.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Only the ones that got caught & wanted to take everybody else down.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yes, but Armstrong and the Postal Service team were the reason it became a sport where everybody was doing it to begin with. There was doping in cycling before, but the dominance of the Postal Service team and their machine-like doping program was what caused it to become universal and institutionalized. It's going to be rich when Armstrong gives the usual song and dance about how "I only did what I had to do to compete" when he's the reason it got that way.
If they introduced doping to the sport to begin with, I would care about this argument. But they didn't, so I don't.

It's a witch hunt. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:27 PM   #23 (permalink)
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What exactly does doping do for a cyclist? Is it an endurance thing, is it a strength or speed thing? I'm not questioning that it does, but have just never heard precisely what edge it gives a cyclist.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Who gives a damn. They all were doing it.
People in the Armstrong camp went to great lengths to disparage the character of anyone who dared to question his legitimacy. I'm sure those people probably give a damn.
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What exactly does doping do for a cyclist? Is it an endurance thing, is it a strength or speed thing? I'm not questioning that it does, but have just never heard precisely what edge it gives a cyclist.
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Endurance/recovery I think. Not an avid follower of cycling though.
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What exactly does doping do for a cyclist? Is it an endurance thing, is it a strength or speed thing? I'm not questioning that it does, but have just never heard precisely what edge it gives a cyclist.
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Blood Doping is when you increase your body's red blood cells. Red blood cells are what carry oxygen from the lungs to the muscles. Therefore it increases your stamina and helps you recover faster.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
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If they introduced doping to the sport to begin with, I would care about this argument. But they didn't, so I don't.
"Everyone was doing it," you shrug, minimizing what Armstrong was doing. But it was Armstrong himself who turned cycling into a sport where doping was universal and practically institutionalized. You don't get the disconnect there?

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It's a witch hunt. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Armstrong was still competing in cycling races. How is compiling evidence against an active competitor a "witch hunt"?
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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He has been a very smug denier all along. I don't like him.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:59 PM   #29 (permalink)
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i've wondered if one of the reasons he developed cancer so young, was partially due to the performance ehancing substances he had been taking.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:00 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Never liked him. Doing your confession with Oprah just makes it exponentially worse. I reall really don't like him now.
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