The 2012 PGA Championship

[govols/cc]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

Did that dude, and I'm guessing you are referencing Boom Boom win?

Kenny Perry was like 49 & choked.

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by govols/cc

Kenny Perry was like 49 & choked.

So he didn't win? How many majors does Kenny Perry even have? Answer: as many as I do.

[govols/cc]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

So he didn't win? How many majors does Kenny Perry even have? Answer: as many as I do.

I didn't list him. You thought I was talking about somebody else.

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by govols/cc

I didn't list him. You thought I was talking about somebody else.

Well neither of them won did they?

[volfanbill]

Darren Clarke, Easy E, Vijay and Payne Stewart are the only over 40 year olds I see that have won since O'Meara's run in 98. I might have missed one or two, but that's 4 out of like 56. Yeah, it's real common.

[DowntownVol]

Furthermore, pro golf is much deeper now than it was in 2000. There are so many young guys capable of winning majors - DJ, Bubba, Fowler, Rory, McDowell, Day, Keegan, etc. - plus your Kuchars and Strickers and Luke Donalds who are always a threat to get hot on the right week and grind one out. And seasoned vets like Vijay, Phil, Furyk. As good as Rory is, and I think he's clearly the best in the world right now, I would put his career majors over/under at 6.5.

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

In fact, Cabrera was still 39 when he won the masters

Which was his second major

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by DowntownVol

Furthermore, pro golf is much deeper now than it was in 2000. There are so many young guys capable of winning majors - DJ, Bubba, Fowler, Rory, McDowell, Day, Keegan, etc. - plus your Kuchars and Strickers and Luke Donalds who are always a threat to get hot on the right week and grind one out. And seasoned vets like Vijay, Phil, Furyk. As good as Rory is, and I think he's clearly the best in the world right now, I would put his career majors over/under at 6.5.

Fowler has been dismal in majors

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by 2ironVol

Which was his second major

and? Do you just want me to point out that he was only 37 when he won the US Open back in '07 or something?

[govols/cc]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

and? Do you just want me to point out that he was only 37 when he won the US Open back in '07 or something?

But you think Tiger is washed up at 36? The best golfer ever can't win 3 more majors at his age yet these golfers do it.

[volfanbill]

i never said Tiger was totally washed up, I even mentioned he'll have chances. But I'm not ready to put him in as a favorite for every major. I'm not even ready to make him a favorite when he's in the top five after Friday. You though, talked about how all sorts of pros are winning majors past and most of their tour wins after they turn 40. But they don't.

[DowntownVol]

Originally Posted by 2ironVol

Fowler has been dismal in majors

Fowler's 23 and has craploads of talent. There's only 4 majors a year to go around, and a lot of guys out there capable of snagging one.

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

and? Do you just want me to point out that he was only 37 when he won the US Open back in '07 or something?

NO...are you looking for some type of debate?

I was stating a fact. That's all

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by DowntownVol

Fowler's 23 and has craploads of talent. There's only 4 majors a year to go around, and a lot of guys out there capable of snagging one.

I know. Still doesn't negate the fact that Fowler has been dismal in majors. Is he capable of winning one? Sure he is, but it's more likely he will never win one GIVEN the level of competition out there right now.

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by 2ironVol

NO...are you looking for some type of debate?

I was stating a fact. That's all

no, I just didn't see any relevance to the topic. I've never stated that old farts can't win majors, it happens, it just doesn't happen that often.

Originally Posted by 2ironVol

I know. Still doesn't negate the fact that Fowler has been dismal in majors. Is he capable of winning one? Sure he is, but it's more likely he will never win one GIVEN the level of competition out there right now.

this statement is WAAAAAAAAAAY out there. Given Fowler's talent and abilities plus his young age, I think it's highly likely he gets at least one.