Muhammad Ali -vs- Joe Louis

[Billy Costigan]

Ali


Louis


which guy do you think was the better boxer?

[Yankee_Vol]

Ali-GOAT

[n_huffhines]

Frazier

[VolBuck24]

Originally Posted by Yankee_Vol

Ali-GOAT

This

[n_huffhines]

Frazier kicked Ali's ass twice. He just happened to win only one of them (he beat Ali to a pulp, and then his one good eye sealed shut and he fought blind for the last 3 or 4 rounds). Frazier was a damn warrior.

[shelbyvillevol]

Ali was the greatest talker of All-Time, but not the greatest boxer.

I'd take Marciano over wither one of them. Don't forget he beat Joe Louis.

[Slydell]

Ali was the greatest. Obviously, the better man.

[NochNoch]

Originally Posted by shelbyvillevol

I'd take Marciano over wither one of them. Don't forget he beat Joe Louis.

Yeah, but that's because Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought.



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[NochNoch]

Originally Posted by Slydell

Ali was the greatest. Obviously, the better man.

Huh?

[shelbyvillevol]

Originally Posted by NochNoch

Yeah, but that's because Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought.



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I thought somebody might bring this clip up. It is absolutely hilarious. Louis was 37 when he fought Marciano, who was only 27 at the time.

[Slydell]

Originally Posted by NochNoch

Huh?

He did a few things besides box.

[NochNoch]

Originally Posted by shelbyvillevol

I thought somebody might bring this clip up. It is absolutely hilarious. Louis was 37 when he fought Marciano, who was only 27 at the time.

I just absolutely love that scene, and the movie as a whole so I couldn't let it slide by without posting it, even if it was the obvious choice.

I absolutely love boxing and can talk about these things for hours on end and never get tired of it but it really is just a toss up between a handful of guys. For each one you can find a staunch group who will argue their point of view to the death. You'll never convince an Ali guy anyone was better, same with a Marciano fan. From what I've read, I think it's not out of the realm of possibility to suggest that Jack Johnson was the greatest of all time.

[NochNoch]

Originally Posted by Slydell

He did a few things besides box.

Yeah, he did, but a lot of them wouldn't make me think he was a better man.

He deserves most of all the praise he gets as a boxer, it's the mythology about the man himself that has always baffled me.

[shelbyvillevol]

Level of competition is the one variable, when discussing which boxer was better, that is hardest to gauge.

[n_huffhines]

Originally Posted by shelbyvillevol

Level of competition is the one variable, when discussing which boxer was better, that is hardest to gauge.

Agreed. It's impossible to compare talent levels over time. I hate it when people say, "This is a down year for pro _______."