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Old 04-18-2012, 10:31 AM   #1
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:36 AM   #2
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:45 PM   #3
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:25 PM   #4
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:19 PM   #5
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Frazier kicked Ali's ass twice. He just happened to win only one of them (he beat Ali to a pulp, and then his one good eye sealed shut and he fought blind for the last 3 or 4 rounds). Frazier was a damn warrior.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:12 AM   #6
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Ali was the greatest talker of All-Time, but not the greatest boxer.

I'd take Marciano over wither one of them. Don't forget he beat Joe Louis.
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Ali was the greatest. Obviously, the better man.
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I'd take Marciano over wither one of them. Don't forget he beat Joe Louis.
Yeah, but that's because Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought.



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I thought somebody might bring this clip up. It is absolutely hilarious. Louis was 37 when he fought Marciano, who was only 27 at the time.
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He did a few things besides box.
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I thought somebody might bring this clip up. It is absolutely hilarious. Louis was 37 when he fought Marciano, who was only 27 at the time.
I just absolutely love that scene, and the movie as a whole so I couldn't let it slide by without posting it, even if it was the obvious choice.

I absolutely love boxing and can talk about these things for hours on end and never get tired of it but it really is just a toss up between a handful of guys. For each one you can find a staunch group who will argue their point of view to the death. You'll never convince an Ali guy anyone was better, same with a Marciano fan. From what I've read, I think it's not out of the realm of possibility to suggest that Jack Johnson was the greatest of all time.
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Yeah, he did, but a lot of them wouldn't make me think he was a better man.

He deserves most of all the praise he gets as a boxer, it's the mythology about the man himself that has always baffled me.
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Level of competition is the one variable, when discussing which boxer was better, that is hardest to gauge.
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Level of competition is the one variable, when discussing which boxer was better, that is hardest to gauge.
Agreed. It's impossible to compare talent levels over time. I hate it when people say, "This is a down year for pro _______."
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