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Old 12-20-2010, 02:02 AM   #61 (permalink)
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I'm trying to find a good stack. Any suggestions? Links?
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I'm trying to find a good stack. Any suggestions? Links?
Prosource.net is the best supplement site that I have found. Lots of info and education on it also.
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:48 AM   #63 (permalink)
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I've tried SuperPump 250. It was better than NO XPlode I thought.
BSN made a huge splash with NO Xplode, which is an ok product, but the rest of their stuff is junk really. They do the best job of marketing by far, followed closely by Gaspari.
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If anyone is interested in increasing their squat by 10%-15% instantly get a Manta Ray squat assist. I'd link a picture but I'm mobile and don't know how. It's just a molded piece of plastic that you snap to the bar that provides 1600% more contact area to stabilize the bar. You can buy them on eBay for about $30.
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Old 12-20-2010, 05:20 PM   #65 (permalink)
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NO Explode is so-so, but Cellmass is easily one of the best creatine supplement products on the market. Endorush also works well if you use it once in a great while. Doesn't really provide a pump of any sort, but the one-off strength increase is nuts. I was lifting at least 15-20% more first time I had a whole bottle.
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Old 12-20-2010, 05:21 PM   #66 (permalink)
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NO Explode is so-so, but Cellmass is easily one of the best creatine supplement products on the market. Endorush also works well if you use it once in a great while. Doesn't really provide a pump of any sort, but the one-off strength increase is nuts. I was lifting at least 15-20% more first time I had a whole bottle.
I didn't mean to imply BSN products didn't work but at best they are middle of the pack efficacy wise in every category. Which really shows how far supplemental science has traveled in the last decade. Of course the most overhyped brand by far is Muscletech.
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What's the consensus on the best whey protein out there? Optimum Nutrition?
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What's the consensus on the best whey protein out there? Optimum Nutrition?
Different proteins have all sorts of different stuff depending on what you're looking for, but ON is the most well-rounded protein out there. If you're not taking a bunch of other aminos, PWO stuff, then I'd recommend it.

Only caveat I'd put with it is get a good shaker cup, because it doesn't like to blend very well (I mix with nonfat milk).
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I didn't mean to imply BSN products didn't work but at best they are middle of the pack efficacy wise in every category. Which really shows how far supplemental science has traveled in the last decade. Of course the most overhyped brand by far is Muscletech.
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Oh, for sure... That said, I have taken a bunch of different Muscletech products at once, if you have a big crazy stack with all their stuff, it works, but the expense outweighs the effectiveness. I had a friend at the time who was a manager at GNC backdoor me some stuff for cheap.

And yes, BSN is usually middle of the pack, except Cellmass. That stuff is the only consistent part of any stack I take. Cheap and insanely effective.
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Thinking of a new regimen.

Jack3d, Optimum opti-Men, Scivation Xtend and ON Whey protein
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Thinking of a new regimen.

Jack3d, Optimum opti-Men, Scivation Xtend and ON Whey protein
Jack3d and ON whey are solid. However;

1) You should put in a post-workout creatine (pre-workout if you want as well)

2) I've heard opti-Men is solid, but from everything I've heard, Animal Pak is the undisputed king of multis right now. Get some, but don't pay more than $30 for it.

3) IMO Amino supplements are a racket. If you're eating a healthy diet, you should be getting more than enough no matter how much protein you're trying to eat, ON has aminos in it, so does nearly every variety of meat and poultry.
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I'm not a big fan of creatine...I never got results that I could notice while using it. I could google it but since we're on the subject, what exactly does creatine do and is it worth the risk of damaging your liver/kidney?
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I cycle on & off with Jack3d. Two downsides that I can find with Jack3d are that its primary stimulant is caffeine, which is great, but anyone can build a tolerance for it very quickly which means taking more and more to be effective which in the long run wipes out your wallet. The other is that Jack3d is so effective it will completely wipe out your glycogen stores, wreak havoc on your adrenal glands, and possibly inhibit natural insulin production. I guess with anything balance is the key.
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