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06-19-2012, 09:49 PM
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#3976 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010 
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Originally Posted by milohimself  Jack3d is basically banned now.
And agreed about muscle tech, it's overpriced at best, complete junk at worst. | I thought it was and I started freaking out but I found a some sites still slanging it. | 
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06-19-2012, 10:01 PM
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#3977 (permalink)
| | Thick.Solid.Tight.
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hickman Co.,TN
Posts: 2,299
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Originally Posted by flowd82 That is unfortunate. I already bought it along with a few other supplements on bodybuilding.com.
What pre-workout would you suggest then? I always went with JACK3D, but it seemed that bodybuilding.com didn't sell it on their site anymore. |
I think MuscleTech is pretty much garbage, however, I have heard a few people say Neurocore isn't bad. Quote:
Originally Posted by govols/cc DPS nutrition is still selling jack3d |
As is TFsupplements. They are having a PW sale right now actually. | 
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06-20-2012, 12:14 AM
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#3978 (permalink)
| | YKW = Basilio's Bish
Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Knoxville
Posts: 8,136
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Originally Posted by govols/cc Before I took 7 months off I was repping that 8-10 times. | Liar. | |
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06-20-2012, 12:15 AM
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#3979 (permalink)
| | YKW = Basilio's Bish
Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Knoxville
Posts: 8,136
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Originally Posted by kwebbvols2344 All muscletech products suck. They just get the best bodybuilders to advertise them. Over priced and low quality. Save your money. | I concur. | |
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06-20-2012, 12:16 AM
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#3980 (permalink)
| | YKW = Basilio's Bish
Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Knoxville
Posts: 8,136
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Originally Posted by flowd82 MuscleTech NeuroCore? Anybody know if it is any good? It is a pre-workout. | Plasmatic. Nitraflex. Both are quality imo. Jack3d is the best though. | |
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06-20-2012, 12:44 AM
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#3981 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Spartanburg, SC
Posts: 11,042
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Originally Posted by bamacheats Liar. | Hater. Haven't seen you in golf thread lately lol. | |
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06-20-2012, 12:30 PM
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#3982 (permalink)
| | VFL
Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Memphis
Posts: 2,870
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| I am not a big pre-workout person, just eat a good meal with lean protein and complex carbs about an hour to an hour and a half before workout and you will be good to go. | |
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06-20-2012, 10:17 PM
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#3983 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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Originally Posted by milohimself In the gym 5-6 days a week. Most important day today, legs day.
5'10.5" 225-230lbs depending on the time of day, 10-11ish% body fat (as best as I can guess)
I don't do 1RM's... Don't see the point other than lame-ass bragging rights.
Most of my sets tend to be 4x8's, I'll drop to 3-5 reps if I'm trying to put up more weight, 8-10 if I'm really feeling it.
Squat: usually in the neighborhood of 365lbs
Bench: 95-110lb dumbells (haven't done barbell in months)
Shrug: ~455lbs
Deadlift: 315
Just some general stuff, upper chest and shoulders can be difficult for me because of a bad rotator cuff and damaged cartilage in my left shoulder but I get it done. | Doing legs is so overrated. I can understand working calves out but nobody even hardly sees your upper legs. | |
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06-21-2012, 06:06 AM
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#3984 (permalink)
| | @insidetweeter
Join Date: May 2007 Location: BOC
Posts: 32,028
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| Moons out, glutes out.
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06-21-2012, 05:32 PM
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#3985 (permalink)
| | Short Sided
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by Billy Costigan Doing legs is so overrated. I can understand working calves out but nobody even hardly sees your upper legs. | A lot of people who know what they are doing say your upper body will resist development if your legs are dragging behind.
I had your mindset for a long time, but I am so happy with my legs. I've lifted them consistently for 18 months now, and am satisfied with the results....even if only one other person sees them. | |
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06-21-2012, 05:35 PM
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#3986 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Spartanburg, SC
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| Doing legs gives me a better overall feeling. I just feel better. | |
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06-21-2012, 05:43 PM
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#3987 (permalink)
| | smh
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines A lot of people who know what they are doing say your upper body will resist development if your legs are dragging behind.
I had your mindset for a long time, but I am so happy with my legs. I've lifted them consistently for 18 months now, and am satisfied with the results....even if only one other person sees them. | He's trolling, but just to take it seriously...
It's widely accepted that even if you're a guy who prefers to focus on upper body, not working out legs holds you back in a big way. | |
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06-21-2012, 05:44 PM
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#3988 (permalink)
| | smh
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Originally Posted by Billy Costigan Doing legs is so overrated. I can understand working calves out but nobody even hardly sees your upper legs. | It's still noticeable. Not saying I'd be the guy to call you chicken legs and start clucking, but if somebody else did then I'd laugh. | |
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06-21-2012, 05:52 PM
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#3989 (permalink)
| | Short Sided
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: AZ
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| I've noticed most guys who just focus on calves can rip them out, but they still don't come close to matching their arms, and they tend to look silly. I think most people have to hit their thighs to get their calves right. | |
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06-21-2012, 05:53 PM
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#3990 (permalink)
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| Moderate weight squats with a toe stand after every rep is the best. | |
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