NASCAR races

TennFan · 12-01-2005, 05:03 PM

Do you think 43 cars are too many to be run on some tracks?
Should they limit the number to a smaller amount - say 30 or 35?

I think Bristol, Martinsville, Darlington and other tracks should have a smaller starting grid. In starting 43, the leader could lap the last car within 3-4 laps. The major speedways-Daytona, Talladega, Charlotte, etc can accomodate 43 cars with no problem. For those tracks that are less than a mile, only have those that are in the top 30-40 qualify and the starting grid will be 35.

**jakez4ut** · 12-01-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by TennFan@Dec 1, 2005 6:03 PM
[b]Do you think 43 cars are too many to be run on some tracks?
Should they limit the number to a smaller amount - say 30 or 35?

I think Bristol, Martinsville, Darlington and other tracks should have a smaller starting grid. In starting 43, the leader could lap the last car within 3-4 laps. The major speedways-Daytona, Talladega, Charlotte, etc can accomodate 43 cars with no problem. For those tracks that are less than a mile, only have those that are in the top 30-40 qualify and the starting grid will be 35.

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yeah, plus all the problems it causes on pit road....but it'll never happen...sponsors pay TOO much money to be limited in one track vs. another....Go back and look at some of the starting grids for some of those races and see who was back there beyond 35...some heavy hitters in some races...

Plus, what would you do about provisionals? that would take away a few more spots from someone earning a spot in a race....i forget how many provisionals are allowed in a race, but if your grid only has 35, then you have reduced it even more......

TennFan · 12-01-2005, 05:23 PM

You could still have provisionals among those 35 cars. Only the top 35 in the points standings would start unless someone is knocked out, but if they have a provisional then they start over who ever was in front of them-whether that's one or two cars. But then, you'd have some that thought they got passed over and should have started.

It's all in competition!

**jakez4ut** · 12-01-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by TennFan@Dec 1, 2005 6:23 PM
[b]You could still have provisionals among those 35 cars. Only the top 35 in the points standings would start unless someone is knocked out, but if they have a provisional then they start over who ever was in front of them-whether that's one or two cars. But then, you'd have some that thought they got passed over and should have started.*

It's all in competition!

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so the only ones that could even go to qualifying would be the top 35? or they just line up in Points order? Hm....with the points like they are now....that could get ugly....you'd basically eliminate 8 cars' chances of gaining any points at 7-8 races...and one of them is in the chase...Martinsville...

**MyBloodRunnethOrange** · 12-01-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by TennFan@Dec 1, 2005 5:03 PM
[b]Do you think 43 cars are too many to be run on some tracks?
Should they limit the number to a smaller amount - say 30 or 35?

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They did that back in the early 90s. I think they had 32 on the short tracks and 41 on the speedways. Not sure when Nascar settled on 43 as the magic number, 96 or 97 I think. I have to agree with jakez4ut though. It would be a nightmare to go back to the smaller field now. The small team owners and sponsers would howl bloody murder.

**tidwell** · 12-01-2005, 09:00 PM

43 is a fine number for most tracks... it's just the fact that about 10 of those 43 are too slow to be out there.

It adds another element I guess, being able to navigate lap traffic and whatnot.

**MyBloodRunnethOrange** · 12-02-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by tidwell@Dec 1, 2005 9:00 PM
[b]43 is a fine number for most tracks... it's just the fact that about 10 of those 43 are too slow to be out there.

It adds another element I guess, being able to navigate lap traffic and whatnot.

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What gets me is you usually have 2 or 3 guys who run one or two laps then park. Morgan Shepherd and Carl Long come to mind. Why are they even there?

**tidwell** · 12-02-2005, 09:55 AM

TennFan · 12-02-2005, 10:28 AM

Sometimes I wonder how some of these drivers can survive, but without the help of their sponsors, where would they be. That's what helps pay the crews in some cases because 2-3 drivers are out with some type of problem within the first 10 laps.

JennVols · 12-02-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by MyBloodRunnethOrange@Dec 2, 2005 12:05 AM
[b]What gets me is you usually have 2 or 3 guys who run one or two laps then park. Morgan Shepherd and Carl Long come to mind. Why are they even there?

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I have more respect for drivers like Morgan Shepherd and Carl Long that use their own money over the drivers that get everything handed to them. They just don't have the money to compete with the rest.

I don't know about the car count, but they should limit the owners to 3 cars each. Nascar limited it to 4 because Felony Motor Sports has 4.