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I thought that since a lot of us stay mainly in the recruiting forum & hate to go over to the football forum b/c of all the B.S. & arguing going on that I would start a recruiting forum football talk thread. That way us recruiting forum guys can have our own thread to talk about the roster, schedule, certain players, the season, ect....


Hopefully the mod's will allow this to stay & possibly lock it to the top of the fourm? :hi:
 
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Good luck with this, but...

1. I am excited to see how the running game and line have developed

2. I expect the secondary to be greatly improved.

3. I am concerned about our depth on defense, and our ability to run the 3-4 effectively. I think we will still see more 4-3 this year.

4. Whenever we have to put a foot on a ball, I'm just gonna leave the room
 
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So with Hubbs' comments about Trent Taylor, where does that put him on the depth chart?


I'll hang up and listen...:)
 
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Nice idea, but you can count on the usual suspects raining on this parade as well.
 
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I thought that since a lot of us stay mainly in the recruiting forum & hate to go over to the football forum b/c of all the B.S. & arguing going on that I would start a recruiting forum football talk thread. That way us recruiting forum guys can have our own thread to talk about the roster, schedule, certain players, the season, ect....


Hopefully the mod's will allow this to stay & possibly lock it to the top of the fourm? :hi:

I second this, would be nice if the mods allowed a thread in the recruiting forum to be dedicated to football talk.
 
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As for the 3-4 4-3 debate a lot is going to depend on the stamina of Mount. Unless they find a capable backup for nose more than likely they switch to the 4-3 when Mount needs a breather. TT is coming along and hopefully hes able to play the nose like an undersized Jay Ratliff, but theres not many other options.
Im excited to see an attacking defense more than anything.
 
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As for the 3-4 4-3 debate a lot is going to depend on the stamina of Mount. Unless they find a capable backup for nose more than likely they switch to the 4-3 when Mount needs a breather. TT is coming along and hopefully hes able to play the nose like an undersized Jay Ratliff, but theres not many other options.
Im excited to see an attacking defense more than anything.

With Mo, Hood, Tugboat, and now possibly Taylor stepping into that role we should have some bodies. But like you and Nick have said, a 4-3 may be the best option without McCullers in the game.

Don't forget though that we'll probably play alot of nickel with all the DBs we have.
 
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2,000 yards rushing or bust, IMO.

Ain't that what they said last year? Lol.

This is a good idea but I dont think it'll work.

Anyways, healthy discussion between like minded folks. Im really hoping the run game vastly improves, especially the o line. Nothing makes me happier than seeing big nasty linemen pushing guys around at will. Furthermore, im really hoping the d doesn't have severe growing pains. Im fairly optimistic about this considering the whole time Wilcox was here they talked about being "multiple" and it seems css is talking the same stuff, just more aggressive and more 3-4 concepts. Hopefully that means taking what they already know and expanding upon it, not completely changing everything. Hopefully that means less of a learning curve.
 
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A couple of injuries could devastate our defense. The increase in talent and depth have been nice, but we are still not deep enough to roll with our second string and tread water.
 
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2000 total yards is not out of the realm of possibility. IMO, if he's our starting back, he'll get the usual rushes, but will also get his fair share of catches out of the backfield...

No back will get enough touches to approach those numbers.

I would settle for 1,200 from our starter and an extra 1,000 from the rest
 
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With Mo, Hood, Tugboat, and now possibly Taylor stepping into that role we should have some bodies. But like you and Nick have said, a 4-3 may be the best option without McCullers in the game.

Don't forget though that we'll probably play alot of nickel with all the DBs we have.

Has anything been said on how Carson has been doing recently? He was better than I expected on goal line situations last year, but have not heard anything on him lately. Also, on that same topic what about Saulsberry at end? Remembered hearing about him during workouts how he had lost weight and was in good shape, but have not heard anything since.
 
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No back will get enough touches to approach those numbers.

I would settle for 1,200 from our starter and an extra 1,000 from the rest

My bad, wasn't referring to just rushing. I think that if we keep him in with Lane/D-Young/whomever then he could be targeted out of the backfield. 1200-1400 rushing with some decent games catching the ball would put him within striking distance of 2000 Total Yards.
 
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Here is my breakdown of how I hope our 3-4 defensive depth chart looks by the N.C. State game:

DE: Darrington Sentimore(6'3", 288lbs), Trent Taylor (6'3", 280lbs), Corey Miller (6'3", 275lbs), Jordan Williams (6'5", 255lbs)

NT: Daniel McCullers(6'7, 370lbs), Daniel Hood (6'4", 293lbs), Danny O'Brien (6'2", 293lbs), Alan Carson (6'2", 320lbs), Greg Clark (6'2", 318lbs)

DE: Maruice Couch(6'2", 295lbs), Marlon Walls (6'2", 283lbs), Steven Fowlkes (6'5", 255lbs), Trevarris Saulsberry (6'5", 280lbs)

SLB: Curt Maggitt (6'3", 227lbs), Brent Brewer (6'1", 225lbs), Dontavius Sapp (6'2", 223lbs)

ILB: Herman Lathers (6'0", 225lbs), Greg King (6'2", 238lbs), Nigel Mitchell-Thornton (6'1", 239lbs), Channing Fugate (6'1", 223lbs), Kenneth Bynum (6'1", 213lbs)

ILB: A.J. Johnson (6'3", 244lbs), Raiques Crump (6'1", 220lbs), John Propst (6'0", 225lbs), Justin King (6'3", 212lbs), Christian Harris (6'2", 238lbs)

JLB: Jacques Smith (6'2", 244lbs), Willie Bohannon (6'2", 255lbs), LaTroy Lewis (6'4", 235lbs)

CB: Prentiss Waggner (6'2", 180lbs), Eric Gordon (5'9"', 197lbs), Tino Thomas (6'0" 199lbs), Daniel Gray (6'0", 165lbs)

CB: Izauea Lanier (6'1", 188lbs), Marsalis Teague (5'10", 183lbs), Justin Coleman (5'10", 180lbs), Deion Bonner (5'11", 185lbs)

S: Brian Randolph (6'0", 189lbs), LaDarrell McNeil (6'1", 190lbs)

S: Byron Moore (6'1", 196lbs), Rod Wilks (6'0", 217lbs)

* Black Bolded Indicates Starter

* This depth chart is relying on a few things:

1) McCullers is able to come in & give us 20-25 snaps a game as the startng NT.

2) Corey Miller gets his grades in order & is back w/ the team in the summer.

3) Herman Lathers can get his ankle back to being 90-95% healthy.

4) We stay healthy through the summer & fall camps.

* I also think that Jordan Williams could give us some snaps as a DE or Jack LB, he played the Jack position in HS.

* I think Maggitt is better suited for the Strong LB spot, especially if Lathers is healthy & can be a starter Inside.

* Hubbs has mentioned numerous times that Byron Moore has been getting the first team reps at Saftey along w/ Randolph, they said he has started to come on as of late.

* Hubbs has alos mentioned the same for Raqiues Crump, he had been gettting some first team reps at ILB for a few practices.

* I think Danny O'Brien can get well over 300lbs by August & could give us some snaps at NT or DE.
 
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A couple of injuries could devastate our defense. The increase in talent and depth have been nice, but we are still not deep enough to roll with our second string and tread water.

Agree 100%, the talent upgrade is great and we'll reap the benefits of it in the years to come, but a few injuries this Fall will get us back to pushing some fairly inexperienced players into starting roles which they will likely not be ready for.
 
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Here is my breakdown of how I hope our 3-4 defensive depth chart looks by the N.C. State game:

DE: Darrington Sentimore(6'3", 288lbs), Trent Taylor (6'3", 280lbs), Corey Miller (6'3", 275lbs), Jordan Williams (6'5", 255lbs)

NT: Daniel McCullers(6'7, 370lbs), Daniel Hood (6'4", 293lbs), Danny O'Brien (6'2", 293lbs), Alan Carson (6'2", 320lbs), Greg Clark (6'2", 318lbs)

DE: Maruice Couch(6'2", 295lbs), Marlon Walls (6'2", 283lbs), Steven Fowlkes (6'5", 255lbs), Trevarris Saulsberry (6'5", 280lbs)

SLB: Curt Maggitt (6'3", 227lbs), Brent Brewer (6'1", 225lbs), Dontavius Sapp (6'2", 223lbs)

ILB: Herman Lathers (6'0", 225lbs), Greg King (6'2", 238lbs), Nigel Mitchell-Thornton (6'1", 239lbs), Channing Fugate (6'1", 223lbs), Kenneth Bynum (6'1", 213lbs)

ILB: A.J. Johnson (6'3", 244lbs), Raiques Crump (6'1", 220lbs), John Propst (6'0", 225lbs), Justin King (6'3", 212lbs), Christian Harris (6'2", 238lbs)

JLB: Jacques Smith (6'2", 244lbs), Willie Bohannon (6'2", 255lbs), LaTroy Lewis (6'4", 235lbs)

CB: Prentiss Waggner (6'2", 180lbs), Eric Gordon (5'9"', 197lbs), Tino Thomas (6'0" 199lbs), Daniel Gray (6'0", 165lbs)

CB: Izauea Lanier (6'1", 188lbs), Marsalis Teague (5'10", 183lbs), Justin Coleman (5'10", 180lbs), Deion Bonner (5'11", 185lbs)

S: Brian Randolph (6'0", 189lbs), LaDarrell McNeil (6'1", 190lbs)

S: Byron Moore (6'1", 196lbs), Rod Wilks (6'0", 217lbs)

* Black Bolded Indicates Starter

* This depth chart is relying on a few things:

1) McCullers is able to come in & give us 20-25 snaps a game as the startng NT.

2) Corey Miller gets his grades in order & is back w/ the team in the summer.

3) Herman Lathers can get his ankle back to being 90-95% healthy.

4) We stay healthy through the summer & fall camps.

* I also think that Jordan Williams could give us some snaps as a DE or Jack LB, he played the Jack position in HS.

* I think Maggitt is better suited for the Strong LB spot, especially if Lathers is healthy & can be a starter Inside.

* Hubbs has mentioned numerous times that Byron Moore has been getting the first team reps at Saftey along w/ Randolph, they said he has started to come on as of late.

* Hubbs has alos mentioned the same for Raqiues Crump, he had been gettting some first team reps at ILB for a few practices.

* I think Danny O'Brien can get well over 300lbs by August & could give us some snaps at NT or DE.

Looks about right to me, I just do not see Teague staying in the two deep though.
 
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Here is my breakdown of how I hope our 3-4 defensive depth chart looks by the N.C. State game:

DE: Darrington Sentimore(6'3", 288lbs), Trent Taylor (6'3", 280lbs), Corey Miller (6'3", 275lbs), Jordan Williams (6'5", 255lbs)

NT: Daniel McCullers(6'7, 370lbs), Daniel Hood (6'4", 293lbs), Danny O'Brien (6'2", 293lbs), Alan Carson (6'2", 320lbs), Greg Clark (6'2", 318lbs)

DE: Maruice Couch(6'2", 295lbs), Marlon Walls (6'2", 283lbs), Steven Fowlkes (6'5", 255lbs), Trevarris Saulsberry (6'5", 280lbs)

SLB: Curt Maggitt (6'3", 227lbs), Brent Brewer (6'1", 225lbs), Dontavius Sapp (6'2", 223lbs)

ILB: Herman Lathers (6'0", 225lbs), Greg King (6'2", 238lbs), Nigel Mitchell-Thornton (6'1", 239lbs), Channing Fugate (6'1", 223lbs), Kenneth Bynum (6'1", 213lbs)

ILB: A.J. Johnson (6'3", 244lbs), Raiques Crump (6'1", 220lbs), John Propst (6'0", 225lbs), Justin King (6'3", 212lbs), Christian Harris (6'2", 238lbs)

JLB: Jacques Smith (6'2", 244lbs), Willie Bohannon (6'2", 255lbs), LaTroy Lewis (6'4", 235lbs)

CB: Prentiss Waggner (6'2", 180lbs), Eric Gordon (5'9"', 197lbs), Tino Thomas (6'0" 199lbs), Daniel Gray (6'0", 165lbs)

CB: Izauea Lanier (6'1", 188lbs), Marsalis Teague (5'10", 183lbs), Justin Coleman (5'10", 180lbs), Deion Bonner (5'11", 185lbs)

S: Brian Randolph (6'0", 189lbs), LaDarrell McNeil (6'1", 190lbs)

S: Byron Moore (6'1", 196lbs), Rod Wilks (6'0", 217lbs)

* Black Bolded Indicates Starter

* This depth chart is relying on a few things:

1) McCullers is able to come in & give us 20-25 snaps a game as the startng NT.

2) Corey Miller gets his grades in order & is back w/ the team in the summer.

3) Herman Lathers can get his ankle back to being 90-95% healthy.

4) We stay healthy through the summer & fall camps.

* I also think that Jordan Williams could give us some snaps as a DE or Jack LB, he played the Jack position in HS.

* I think Maggitt is better suited for the Strong LB spot, especially if Lathers is healthy & can be a starter Inside.

* Hubbs has mentioned numerous times that Byron Moore has been getting the first team reps at Saftey along w/ Randolph, they said he has started to come on as of late.

* Hubbs has alos mentioned the same for Raqiues Crump, he had been gettting some first team reps at ILB for a few practices.

* I think Danny O'Brien can get well over 300lbs by August & could give us some snaps at NT or DE.

LOVE the size we've built up in the front 7.

A Few Questions.
1) Has Brewer fully converted to LB?
2) Wasn't Taylor being mentioned as a part of the NT Rotation?
3) How has J-Smith looked in his move from DE to a standup LB?
 
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