NIT, CBI, CIT, Vegas 16

#26
#26
Judging by attendance they don't now except when we play UK. That being said, I recall the last two times we played at home in the NIT we drew maybe 4,000. Given it was general admission, and only the real fans who care showed up, it was really loud.

Our regular season attendance is down but still pretty good for a football school that's had little to cheer for in 3 years.

But yeah, the NIT generates little interest. The MTSU game from 2012 drew 12,000, but I'm sure being MTSU helped that. But the game before that drew about 6500, and the Mercer game the next year drew 4,000. Before that, the last home NIT game was one of Buzz's years against Georgetown and drew 3,000.
 
#27
#27
Our regular season attendance is down but still pretty good for a football school that's had little to cheer for in 3 years.

But yeah, the NIT generates little interest. The MTSU game from 2012 drew 12,000, but I'm sure being MTSU helped that. But the game before that drew about 6500, and the Mercer game the next year drew 4,000. Before that, the last home NIT game was one of Buzz's years against Georgetown and drew 3,000.

I was there. It was awful. Glorified high school game attendance.
 
#28
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I wouldn't mind NIT if it happens. I don't think you'd get more than like 7,000 at TBA, but who knows? I had fun one game I went to when they played American when I was a student (during Cuonzo's first year I think?), and the attendance was pretty low. But it makes it easy to attend at least. Obviously, I'd much rather have them make it to the NCAAT. But with the expectations being so low coming into this season, I'd take NIT.
 
#29
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My ETSU Bucs played in the Vegas 16 last season. Made it to the final 8 teams & lost. There was hardly anybody at these games though. Even the Championship game. Are they still having that post-season tourney this season?
 
#30
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My ETSU Bucs played in the Vegas 16 last season. Made it to the final 8 teams & lost. There was hardly anybody at these games though. Even the Championship game. Are they still having that post-season tourney this season?

Impressive that they made it to the final 8 teams of an 8 team tournament. :p
 
#31
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Impressive that they made it to the final 8 teams of an 8 team tournament. :p

It was 16 teams wasn't it? Hence the name Vegas 16? :eek:hmy: I honestly can't remember but why was it called Vegas 16 if there was only 8 teams in it?

Again, I can't remember for sure. It may have been the Bucs made the semifinals. I know they won one game & then lost & was put out. Thanks!
 
#32
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It was 16 teams wasn't it? Hence the name Vegas 16? :eek:hmy: I honestly can't remember but why was it called Vegas 16 if there was only 8 teams in it?

Again, I can't remember for sure. It may have been the Bucs made the semifinals. I know they won one game & then lost & was put out. Thanks!

It was supposed to be 16 teams but they couldn't get 16 teams to commit, so they made it 8.
 
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#33
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Even if it was 16 teams, ETSU making it past one game to the "final 8" (lol) in a mid-major tournament is far from impressive.
 
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#34
#34
Any non-NIT tournament is paid for by the University itself. If I was in charge of finances, I wouldn't spend thousands of dollars to play in the CIT/CBI or any other 'feel good' tournament.
Ehh I bet our guys would be disappointed with anything less than an NIT appearance.

Try this out. Forbes gave ETSU a nice post season tournament last year. They beat La Tech and lost to Oakland in the Las Vegas 16 which turned out to be 8 teams since only 8 were available. There were a couple of Power 5 schools who considered but did not commit. The reason was that many teams chose to forego post season play and missed the boat on this one. The inaugural tourney was at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in a 12,000-seat indoor arena at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, on the Las Vegas Strip, in Paradise, Nevada. Guess what? Money. All expenses were paid by the tournament.
 
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Forbes could have easily gone to one of the other mid-major tournaments. A 23-11 record was not good enough for the NIT which many of you believe Tennessee should never accept. I remember a lot of you saying NCAA or bust. Instead he played his cards perfectly and rewarded his 24-12 team with a nice trip to Las Vegas for all the work they put in during the year.

By the way, Furman has a 9 game winning streak and is 11-2 in the conference, ETSU is in second at 10-3, and Chattanooga tied with UNCG at 9-4.
 
#38
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Forbes could have easily gone to one of the other mid-major tournaments. A 23-11 record was not good enough for the NIT which many of you believe Tennessee should never accept. I remember a lot of you saying NCAA or bust. Instead he played his cards perfectly and rewarded his 24-12 team with a nice trip to Las Vegas for all the work they put in during the year.

By the way, Furman has a 9 game winning streak and is 11-2 in the conference, ETSU is in second at 10-3, and Chattanooga tied with UNCG at 9-4.

Imma need a link to that.
 
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#40
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Imma need a link to that.

I think it's cute that it's some big deal that they chose one mid-major tournament nobody cares about over another mid-major tournament, especially considering 2 of them couldn't even find enough teams to fill out their original number they wanted. I mean how bold to accept a bid to tournament that could only field half the teams they wanted.

Imma also going to need a link to where anyone said UT should NEVER accept an NIT bid.
 
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That wasn't your claim nor the question; you claimed some demand exists for it and as usual, you're now dancing around it and refusing to answer the question.

And give me a break, you've got no room to talk about anyone getting salty or "creating an argument" Mr. Medical Redshirt/Fifth-Year Senior. You are the one who got salty first in this thread buddy. It's a messageboard, if you don't like people responding to your claims, then put me on ignore.

I answered when you challenged my comment that there's more pent up demand this year than most. For the third time... TN went to the post season 9 straight years and haven't been in a post season game for 3 years now. That creates pent up demand. The reason that huge numbers attended the Tax Slayer Bowl two years ago wasn't because second tier bowl games are awesome. It was because there was much pent up demand.

The back and forth that you jumped into was about paying a fee for an invite to the CBI. It wasn't about filling up the arena. You drug that **** in from an ongoing argument in another thread. There's a difference between responding and trolling for an argument. You're doing the latter.
 
#42
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I answered when you challenged my comment that there's more pent up demand this year than most. For the third time... TN went to the post season 9 straight years and haven't been in a post season game for 3 years now. That creates pent up demand. The reason that huge numbers attended the Tax Slayer Bowl two years ago wasn't because second tier bowl games are awesome. It was because there was much pent up demand.

The back and forth that you jumped into was about paying a fee for an invite to the CBI. It wasn't about filling up the arena. You drug that **** in from an ongoing argument in another thread. There's a difference between responding and trolling for an argument. You're doing the latter.

Good lord....you're reaching SD levels here. I'm challenging your comment because you still haven't answered it.

As I've pointed out, you're already dancing around your original claim by saying you never claimed a big crowd. So give me a number, what's a crowd size to a CBI game that would prove this so called demand of yours? 8K? 10K? If 3K tickets were sold, are you going to actually try to argue that proves some "pent up demand"?
 
#43
#43
Good lord....you're reaching SD levels here. I'm challenging your comment because you still haven't answered it.

As I've pointed out, you're already dancing around your original claim by saying you never claimed a big crowd. So give me a number, what's a crowd size to a CBI game that would prove this so called demand of yours? 8K? 10K? If 3K tickets were sold, are you going to actually try to argue that proves some "pent up demand"?

Good lord....you're reaching stalker levels here. My reply was addressing a comment about spending thousands of dollars on a tourney participation fee. THIS YEAR they should be able to sell some tickets because fans haven't seen TN in a post season tournament for three years now after participating in 9 straight.

Enough demand to make it economically practical, despite having to pay an entrance fee or guarantee a minimum number of tickets sold, in order to join the CBI field.

I'm not sure why you're obsessed with arguing about "pent up demand".
 
#45
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Good lord....you're reaching stalker levels here. My reply was addressing a comment about spending thousands of dollars on a tourney participation fee. THIS YEAR they should be able to sell some tickets because fans haven't seen TN in a post season tournament for three years now after participating in 9 straight.

Enough demand to make it economically practical, despite having to pay an entrance fee or guarantee a minimum number of tickets sold, in order to join the CBI field.

I'm not sure why you're obsessed with arguing about "pent up demand".

So "pent up demand" now means "enough demand to be economically viable"....which again, isn't really an answer, and I'm pretty sure you're the only one here that would describe "pent up demand" that way.
 
#47
#47
So "pent up demand" now means "enough demand to be economically viable"....which again, isn't really an answer, and I'm pretty sure you're the only one here that would describe "pent up demand" that way.

No, pent up demand means you haven't been allowed to do something for a while and as a result you want to do it even more now. At no point did I suggest that attendance at a CBI game would approach that of even the lowest attended regular season game. You've taken the comment in a totally different direction. My theory is that you're dragging in argument from a different thread into this one.

I've given you the answer about four times now. Not sure why you keep arguing.
 
#48
#48
The only time you shouldn't accept an nit bid, is if you have no head coach, or you're a program like duke, which even ky accepted an nit bid, and I don't see duke ever going back to the nit under coach k.
 
#49
#49
Forbes could have easily gone to one of the other mid-major tournaments. A 23-11 record was not good enough for the NIT which many of you believe Tennessee should never accept. I remember a lot of you saying NCAA or bust. Instead he played his cards perfectly and rewarded his 24-12 team with a nice trip to Las Vegas for all the work they put in during the year.

By the way, Furman has a 9 game winning streak and is 11-2 in the conference, ETSU is in second at 10-3, and Chattanooga tied with UNCG at 9-4.

My Bucs will end up winning the regular season title but losing in the tourney again so left out of the NCAAT again. They will be going to another one of these other tourneys. They're still a really good team though.
 
#50
#50
No, pent up demand means you haven't been allowed to do something for a while and as a result you want to do it even more now. At no point did I suggest that attendance at a CBI game would approach that of even the lowest attended regular season game. You've taken the comment in a totally different direction. My theory is that you're dragging in argument from a different thread into this one.

I've given you the answer about four times now. Not sure why you keep arguing.

My theory is you made a statement and now can't back it up, and you're dancing around it like a politician and trying to divert it in any way possible.

Good lord simply reading your replies will prove this. Your original reply about "pent up demand" was in direct reply to my statement about how it's hard enough to get people to show up for an NIT game and that I doubt people would show up for an lower tournament (which itself was a reply to you saying "People might actually buy tickets"), and that's when you started the "pent up demand". Don't believe me, here you go:

It will be hard enough to get fans to show up for an NIT game; I seriously doubt many would show up for a no-name tournament.

Your direct reply:
There's more pent up demand this year than most. TN hasn't been to any post season tourney for 3 years now after going 9 straight years.

And now you're trying to tell me you were meaning demand to simply cover operating expenses to break even, when you were directly replying to my post that clearly had nothing to do with that, and you weren't trying to make any comment on crowd size even though you directly compared it to fans buying up tons of TaxSlayer Bowl tickets? GTFO.
 

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