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Old 06-12-2012, 02:55 PM   #8671 (permalink)
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Oh really? I thought it was the NWA's.
Flair owned it for a number of years. Its was used in the WWE after they bought WCW and started having two champions.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:43 PM   #8672 (permalink)
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Old 06-13-2012, 03:11 PM   #8673 (permalink)
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Flair owned it for a number of years. Its was used in the WWE after they bought WCW and started having two champions.
I think we are talking about two different belts. I am talking about the old NWA belt from the early 80's. It has a silver earth ball on the top of it. The one you are talking about I think is the one he had when the NWA ans WCW split. I knew that one was his.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:13 AM   #8674 (permalink)
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I'm really starting to become uninterested in Raw again. They need to make the other belts relevant again. I remember the IC title seeming just as important as the WWE title. The tag-team division is non-existent and I wish they would bring the Hardcore title back also. All the momentum created by Punk last year has died off; they could have gone the old Stone Cold/Vince angle with Punk/Vince but they decided to go with Johnny Ace and he's just not as good at being a character as Vince is.

I really thought they were going to turn things around last summer, but they have disappointed.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:01 AM   #8675 (permalink)
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I think we are talking about two different belts. I am talking about the old NWA belt from the early 80's. It has a silver earth ball on the top of it. The one you are talking about I think is the one he had when the NWA ans WCW split. I knew that one was his.
I think Harley Race had the rights to that belt. I'm not sure how all of that worked but it might explain why Race held it for so long and it would always revert back to him.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:36 AM   #8676 (permalink)
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I'm really starting to become uninterested in Raw again. They need to make the other belts relevant again. I remember the IC title seeming just as important as the WWE title. The tag-team division is non-existent and I wish they would bring the Hardcore title back also. All the momentum created by Punk last year has died off; they could have gone the old Stone Cold/Vince angle with Punk/Vince but they decided to go with Johnny Ace and he's just not as good at being a character as Vince is.

I really thought they were going to turn things around last summer, but they have disappointed.
I can second this. I'm also disappointed that it seems that the Big Show/Cena feud (which IMO is boring) is more important than the WWE title fued. No feud should be above a World or WWE title fued, even if Cena is involved.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:06 AM   #8677 (permalink)
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I can second this. I'm also disappointed that it seems that the Big Show/Cena feud (which IMO is boring) is more important than the WWE title fued. No feud should be above a World or WWE title fued, even if Cena is involved.
Agree with that, too. I'm also upset with the part-timers coming in and stealing the spotlight which isn't allowing the full-time up-and-comers to get their chance to make a name for themselves. I'm all for guys like Rock, Lesnar, HHH being around, but they need to be full-time. It puts the storylines of the other guys on the sidelines.
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does anyone on here know the true reason sting wouldn't work for vince?
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I think Harley Race had the rights to that belt. I'm not sure how all of that worked but it might explain why Race held it for so long and it would always revert back to him.
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does anyone on here know the true reason sting wouldn't work for vince?
Not sure if there is a certain reason now. I read recently that Sting thought he had a done deal to go to WWE and face taker at the Wrestlemania. It said he was shocked the deal didn't get done. I know when Vince first took WCW over they couldn't agree on the "creative" side of his character. That was why he never go the first time.
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I'm really starting to become uninterested in Raw again. They need to make the other belts relevant again. I remember the IC title seeming just as important as the WWE title. The tag-team division is non-existent and I wish they would bring the Hardcore title back also. All the momentum created by Punk last year has died off; they could have gone the old Stone Cold/Vince angle with Punk/Vince but they decided to go with Johnny Ace and he's just not as good at being a character as Vince is.

I really thought they were going to turn things around last summer, but they have disappointed.
Supposedly they are coming up with a "big stoyline" for the summer, much like the nexus storyline and the cm punk storyline
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Old 06-15-2012, 02:30 PM   #8682 (permalink)
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:16 AM   #8683 (permalink)
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I'm really starting to become uninterested in Raw again. They need to make the other belts relevant again. I remember the IC title seeming just as important as the WWE title. The tag-team division is non-existent and I wish they would bring the Hardcore title back also. All the momentum created by Punk last year has died off; they could have gone the old Stone Cold/Vince angle with Punk/Vince but they decided to go with Johnny Ace and he's just not as good at being a character as Vince is.

I really thought they were going to turn things around last summer, but they have disappointed.
I agree with that, mostly because Punk has fallen into the typical good guy role in WWE that Cena, Sheamus, and Orton have fallen into. The only thing I find interesting now is whenever Bryan and AJ are involved.

I also don't like the insistence that Cena be in the main event. Its pretty inexplicable, kayfabe wise. They're essentially saying "this man is more important than our championship". While he may be the face of the company, he is not more important than the title. It would be like CBS being responsible for airing the Super Bowl, but they decide to preempt it with a Peyton Manning press conference.
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Shameus, Punk, Cena all won and Ace was fired
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:29 PM   #8685 (permalink)
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Bryan really should've won. Punk is stale. I'm afraid tho we'll see somebody even more lame take the title from him now, like Big Show.
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