Mac vs PC (split)

[Vercingetorix]

Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno

Yeah - which has nothing to do with what the poster claimed.. but anyway its stupid.. mac's are thin as it is.. and if you want something more portable you buy an IPad so it doesn't make any sense.. it makes about as much sense as Steve Jobs not supporting flash. There are still several instances where people will want an optical drive and if they say otherwise they're just being stubborn or don't care to spend the extra money.. and unless you have a desktop to go along with a laptop - I'd also be pissed at not having an ethernet port.

What? Flash has been a boil on the arse of everyone with a computer for more than a decade. Everyone will benefit because Steve Jobs effectively killed it. If you have an Android phone, its performance will be vastly better playing web content going forward -- BECAUSE Jobs held firm on Flash. If he had caved, then Flash would have been with us forever. With all its awful 1995 code, all its memory usage, all its battery-hogging performance, all of it. Apple holding the line on Flash is the only thing that could have killed it. Thank God they did. Tech-savvy users were using Flash-blockers for years before the iPhone ever came out.

Too bad about all the restaurant websites though.

[Sith Vol]

Originally Posted by dukes_of_maggard

You're happy with it? I have a 6 year old macbook that needs to be replaced and I was thinking about getting a SSD for the first time but wasn't sure if it was worth the additional cost.

Yes. I love my Air's SSD. I'll try to not go back to a standard hdd as long as I can help it. They are a lot faster.

[Sith Vol]

Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric

Actually, the old Sandforce controllers were terrible, and had extreme bugs in them, especially in the OCZ drives. The newer drives with Sandforce controllers are MUCH better, and I think that has to do with the NAND in them as well. Intel makes some sweet firmware as well.

I thought that Apple owned the patent or part of the tech of the Thunderbolt, which is why you won't see it hooked up to a PC?? I've never used one, so I can't be exactly for sure either.

Nah. Intel is the company that owns the rights to it. Apple helped them develop and integrate into their products. More computer companies will have it as time progresses I would imagine.

[Vercingetorix]

Originally Posted by dukes_of_maggard

You're happy with it? I have a 6 year old macbook that needs to be replaced and I was thinking about getting a SSD for the first time but wasn't sure if it was worth the additional cost.

It's the kind of thing where it's not that big a deal until you get used to it, and then you could never even imagine going back. Sort of like using OS X in the first place. I didn't even like it that much for months after buying my first Mac, and then I had to go back and try to fix a complicated problem on my wife's Windows box and it made me want to shoot myself. (Or, if you want to go further back, Windows 95 and Windows 3.X. Thought 95 was only okay for a few months, got a job where I had to use a Win 3.X computer instead, completely changed my mind about Win 95.) You don't notice how much better an SSD is until you have to work on a machine that has the system on a hard drive. The whole computer is syrupy.

My main machine now is an iMac with an SSD boot and a HDD for data. I will never own a computer that doesn't at least boot from an SSD again.

[VolnTitan]

I've heard some decent things about the new premier. One of out editors is starting to use it. We aren't touching the new final cut. I'm not a big fan of final cut to begin with. I'm more used to avid and we use macs for all our file compressions. Too many folks buy a computer and a program and think "I'm an editor!". I would say a big chunk of our business is spent polishing turds.

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Originally Posted by Sith Vol

Nah. Intel is the company that owns the rights to it. Apple helped them develop and integrate into their products. More computer companies will have it as time progresses I would imagine.

I wonder if it's an exclusive product for Mac, and they signed some sort of deal to keep it like that?? Seems like that would be more likely, especially with all the other monitor manufactures out there.

[Bassmanbruno]

Originally Posted by Vercingetorix

What? Flash has been a boil on the arse of everyone with a computer for more than a decade. Everyone will benefit because Steve Jobs effectively killed it. If you have an Android phone, its performance will be vastly better playing web content going forward -- BECAUSE Jobs held firm on Flash. If he had caved, then Flash would have been with us forever. With all its awful 1995 code, all its memory usage, all its battery-hogging performance, all of it. Apple holding the line on Flash is the only thing that could have killed it. Thank God they did. Tech-savvy users were using Flash-blockers for years before the iPhone ever came out.

Too bad about all the restaurant websites though.

My point was that it's a ***** not to have it on my phone - not that flash is awesome.

[Bassmanbruno]

I use a crucial m4 I think. Almost went with a cheaper OCZ but glad I didn't. I use it to boot up and I usually put my two primary games at the time on it as well as small programs I use often. I made sure to routed my desktop/downloads/pictures/documents/videos/etc to my 2 TB raid0 HDD so still have Atleast 60giga available on my SSD at all times.

[Sith Vol]

Originally Posted by Vercingetorix

It's the kind of thing where it's not that big a deal until you get used to it, and then you could never even imagine going back. Sort of like using OS X in the first place. I didn't even like it that much for months after buying my first Mac, and then I had to go back and try to fix a complicated problem on my wife's Windows box and it made me want to shoot myself. (Or, if you want to go further back, Windows 95 and Windows 3.X. Thought 95 was only okay for a few months, got a job where I had to use a Win 3.X computer instead, completely changed my mind about Win 95.) You don't notice how much better an SSD is until you have to work on a machine that has the system on a hard drive. The whole computer is syrupy.

My main machine now is an iMac with an SSD boot and a HDD for data. I will never own a computer that doesn't at least boot from an SSD again.

This.

[SGMVols]

Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric

I wonder if it's an exclusive product for Mac, and they signed some sort of deal to keep it like that?? Seems like that would be more likely, especially with all the other monitor manufactures out there.

IIRC, Intel agreed to let Thunderbolt be exclusive to the Mac for the first year in return for Apple's collaboration in its development. That gave Apple enough time to introduce it throughout its Mac lineup before any PC could get it. But that year is over and the PC world can now adopt it if it so chooses. Acer just released a new ultrabook that has it.

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Originally Posted by SGMVols

IIRC, Intel agreed to let Thunderbolt be exclusive to the Mac for the first year in return for Apple's collaboration in its development. That gave Apple enough time to introduce it throughout its Mac lineup before any PC could get it. But that year is over and the PC world can now adopt it if it so chooses. Acer just released a new ultrabook that has it.

One would hope that Intel would adopt this in favor of USB 3.0, just to give them a leg up on the storage wars. Imagine an external SSD, plus the Thunderbolt tech.

[burntorangeVOLffle]

Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric

One would hope that Intel would adopt this in favor of USB 3.0, just to give them a leg up on the storage wars. Imagine an external SSD, plus the Thunderbolt tech.

LaCie 240GB Little Big Disk SSD with Thunderbolt 9000243 B&H

Pretty expensive for 240 gigs.

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Just downloaded and installed Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon. Awesome OS, and Wine works well in it too.

[burntorangeVOLffle]

Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric

Just downloaded and installed Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon. Awesome OS, and Wine works well in it too.

Do you use ubuntu ever? Im planning on installing it on an old Toshiba laptop I have just to tinker. The web app demo I played with was very similar to OSX.

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Originally Posted by burntorangeVOLffle

Do you use ubuntu ever? Im planning on installing it on an old Toshiba laptop I have just to tinker. The web app demo I played with was very similar to OSX.

I have used Ubuntu through several distros, but have converted to Linux Mint. Mint is based off of Ubuntu, and is much faster and has the same software library. Get the 32-bit version of Cinnamon for Mint.