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04-09-2012, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bamacheats All. Risk/Reward is still in our favor by a landslide. | I see. Times sure do change don't they. It was a life or death risk at one point to not get your kids vaccinated. So not even the polio vaccine? None of them?
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04-09-2012, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vollygirl I see. Times sure do change don't they. It was a life or death risk at one point to not get your kids vaccinated. So not even the polio vaccine? None of them? | My kids have a better chance at winning the Powerball twice than getting polio.
I'm not dead set opposed, but right now the potential benefit doesn't outweigh the limited risk. |
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04-09-2012, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by vollygirl But I think that's just it. We DID notice. We just didn't define them as kids with autism. They were the shy kids. Or the super smart kids. Or the kids who were too into their own thing to mess with us. The kids I knew who might be classified as autistic today, were the kids that were "beyond" us, back then. Know what I mean? They had something great that the rest of didn't have. | . . . and that's not a wrong interpretation, but it's really just one facet. Autism doesn't automatically equate to Rain Man or Temple Grandin. |
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04-09-2012, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkVol True, once we added the word spectrum, it made it possible to toss any unknown diagnosis into the mix. The diagnostic criteria keeps getting refined but we aren't there yet. | The criteria hasn't changed since 1994. |
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04-09-2012, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vollygirl Since there are two parents here, do you think more children are autistic, or is there just more education about how to diagnose it? | Make that three and if you believe these people were unnoticed previously then you haven't seen one. This **** is totally real and totally serious. |
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04-09-2012, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vollygirl Looking at some of the symptoms, an awful lot of those would have indicated a "shy" child, or an "introvert" at one time. I have a very limited knowledge of austism. | That is a complete myth. We are talking about kids in many cases that cannot speak or wipe themselves. |
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04-09-2012, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by s1216 Make that three and if you believe these people were unnoticed previously then you haven't seen one. This **** is totally real and totally serious. | I didn't mean to imply it wasn't real. I just meant most people didn't know there was a "name" for it. No disrespect intended s1216.
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04-09-2012, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by vollygirl I didn't mean to imply it wasn't real. I just meant most people didn't know there was a "name" for it. No disrespect intended s1216. | No offense taken your comments are respectful even if I believe they are inaccurate. |
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04-09-2012, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by s1216 Make that three and if you believe these people were unnoticed previously then you haven't seen one. This **** is totally real and totally serious. | The article is not addressing the severly autistic. It uses the word to catch everyone's attention and then throws in "developmental delays". Volly is 100% correct in her review of this article.
You must have someone close to you that is severly autistic to have reacted so strongly. Would you like to tell us more about that? |
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04-09-2012, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartacavolus I think that **** just happens and you have to deal with it. Not one thing can or will be proven as a cause, imo. Again, I knew of a couple of odd kids in each of my classes growing up. One kid didn't talk, but could throw the football a mile. One kid couldn't run well, but knew math like a computer. I remember another kid that "looked" like an allstar type kid, but couldn't carry a conversation or look others in the eye.
They would have been in the autism spectrum, and that's 3 kids in a class of about 30. I bet most of you had the same kids, but don't remember or didn't notice. | I don't know that much about the disease but I guess there are degrees of autism.
My cousin is like rain man and sweet as can be. My friends boy is not on his level of brilliance and can fly off the handle mean.
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04-09-2012, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vollygirl But I think that's just it. We DID notice. We just didn't define them as kids with autism. They were the shy kids. Or the super smart kids. Or the kids who were too into their own thing to mess with us. The kids I knew who might be classified as autistic today, were the kids that were "beyond" us, back then. Know what I mean? They had something great that the rest of didn't have. |
i meant it as I think different kids have always been around. I think many people dismiss it. It's like fighting in the middle east. It's always been there.
Back in the 70's, a kid was just "different" or "wasn't right". As a matter of fact, I can think of more kids then that would fit in the spectrum than I know now. I mean, we had some kids with some crazy issues growing up.
The treatments and early interventions have been great though. Many parents will shy away if they have concerns, but we got in Vanderbilt very early. My son still gets tested about once every quarter at Vandy for a study as he reads, plays games, speaks, etc, with something on his head that measures brain activity. He also makes $50 each time, and bought us a Madden game to play together with his cash. Sweetest kid ever. |
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04-09-2012, 09:16 PM
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| One week it's an obese mother, the previous week it's the age of the father, prior to that it's parental use of smoking weed...........
The bottom line is researchers still don't know and are just grasping at straws for the cause. |
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04-09-2012, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by s1216 The criteria hasn't changed since 1994. | I thought they were updated with the DSM-IV-TR and more refined criteria would be included in the next version. |
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04-09-2012, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bamacheats My kids have a better chance at winning the Powerball twice than getting polio.
I'm not dead set opposed, but right now the potential benefit doesn't outweigh the limited risk. | I was curious about their ages because my sister had made the same decision but when her kids got to be school age, she changed her mind and let them be vaccinated. It seems as though a lot of people give in once the schools start putting pressure on them.
My view is that vaccines have saved more lives than any other medical development, with the only exception possibly being hand washing. |
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04-09-2012, 09:35 PM
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| What about age of the mother? I've heard/read several things that seem to indicate that children are put at higher risk for conditions such as Down's Syndrome if the mother is over 35 years old.
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