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03-16-2012, 01:19 PM
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| | I don't think so! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: York Pa
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| 1. What is a Neighborhood Watch Captain?
2. Since when does neighborhood watch carry side arms? |
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03-16-2012, 01:26 PM
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| | The White Debonair | Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkVol 1. What is a Neighborhood Watch Captain?
2. Since when does neighborhood watch carry side arms? | civil court will be interesting |
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03-16-2012, 01:31 PM
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| | I don't think so! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: York Pa
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire civil court will be interesting | 26 year old college student with a degree in criminal justice...means he works for Wackenhut. |
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03-16-2012, 01:32 PM
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| | The White Debonair | Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkVol 26 year old college student with a degree in criminal justice...means he works for Wackenhut. | One of the most worthless degrees out there |
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03-17-2012, 09:39 AM
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| | No Words Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nutopia
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03-17-2012, 04:02 PM
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| | Flammable when sparked! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chattanooga
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| This makes me so sick I can't stand it.
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03-17-2012, 04:09 PM
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| | VN GURU | Quote:
Originally Posted by KoachKrab127 Trayvon Martin Case Sent To State Attorney's Office Amid Growing Tension, Questions About Police Probe
Seventeen year old Trayvon Martin was walking home from a store as a neighborhood watch clown, 26 year old George Zimmerman called 911 and reported a "suspicious individual." Cops told Zimmerman not to confront the teen, but Zimmerman did, then shot and killed him. Police have not arrested Zimmerman, who claims self defense. The only things Martin had were a bottle of iced tea and a bag of skittles. A witness claims she heard Trayvon yell for help, then heard a gun shot. Police investigation has been HORRIBLE. The article talks a lot about that failure. | sounds like murder to me |
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03-17-2012, 04:10 PM
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| How is it NOT murder? Why is there a question at all? I don't get it??
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03-17-2012, 04:16 PM
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| I'm struggling to think of a single situation where this could possibly be self defense. Based on the facts that have been presented so far, Mr Zimmerman belongs in prison. For a very long time. |
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03-17-2012, 04:19 PM
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| | The White Debonair | Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ron Mexico I'm struggling to think of a single situation where this could possibly be self defense. Based on the facts that have been presented so far, Mr Zimmerman belongs in prison. For a very long time. | There is something else, Zimmerman a son of someone "important"?
Zimmerman a home owner? |
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03-17-2012, 09:20 PM
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| Wts***
If things are as they appear, this is murder. If this is not murder, everyone should be free to kill. |
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03-18-2012, 12:42 PM
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| | Senior Member | You need to understand a few things about the background on this, which are not included in the story that OP has posted.
First, when police got there, Zimmerman was bleeding from his own wounds.
Second, the investigators interviewed these witnesses, some of who originally said they heard Zimmerman yelling for help. not the teen. And only after the uproar and the arrival in town of some classic leaders, have these folks now changed their stories to say that it was the teen yelling for help, not Zimmerman. Very odd.
Zimmerman should not have gotten out of the car to confront the teen, I'd agree with that. And he likely would have a huge problem because of that in a civil case. But Florida has a stand your ground law, and if 1) he confronted the teen (even when he shouldn't) and was attacked by the teen; and 2) if it is Zimmerman yelling for help trying to get away from the teen and resorts to a gun in self defense, then I can see the quandry that the police are in here in investigating the case.
What people don't understand is that the police in a case like this just investigate then turn it over to the prosecutor for a decision on whether to pursue criminal charges. Under Florida law, they cannot make an arrest without probable cause and the fact is that the physical evidence does not co0ntradict Zimmerman's claim of self defense. Indeed, in many respects it supports it. And so, the police are not going to arrest in this situation --- instead they will let the prosecutor decide whether to bring charges.
Also, I'd point out that the police have themselves asked the DOJ to come in and look at their investigation. This is a very difficult situation for the police -- let's not jump to any unwarranted conclusions. |
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03-18-2012, 01:18 PM
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| | No Words Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nutopia
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| One story I read said that a witness told the police they heard Martin crying/yelling for help. The witness said the police corrected them and told them they had heard Zimmerman calling for help. I saw in one story where it was reported that Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose and the back of his head. Would the police have taken pictures of this?
I don't understand the intent in this case of the stand your ground law. So if someone goes after another person for whatever reason, confronts them/possibly provoking them and then kills them, it could be qualified as self defense? Serious question. |
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