2498 users online now!    CONTACT US | ADVERTISE | REGISTER       

About this Page -- This is a discussion on A boy named Trayvon Martin is shot and killed by neighborhood watch goon Page 2. within the forum The Pub. 1. What is a Neighborhood Watch Captain? 2. Since when does neighborhood watch carry side arms? ...

Go Back   VolNation > Off Topic Forums > The Pub

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-16-2012, 01:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
I don't think so!
 
YorkVol's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: York Pa
Posts: 10,172
Likes: 2,164
1. What is a Neighborhood Watch Captain?
2. Since when does neighborhood watch carry side arms?
YorkVol is online now  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-16-2012, 01:26 PM   #17 (permalink)
The White Debonair
 
OrangeEmpire's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Whiteville!
Posts: 75,039
Likes: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkVol View Post
1. What is a Neighborhood Watch Captain?
2. Since when does neighborhood watch carry side arms?
civil court will be interesting
OrangeEmpire is offline   Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-16-2012, 01:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
I don't think so!
 
YorkVol's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: York Pa
Posts: 10,172
Likes: 2,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire View Post
civil court will be interesting
26 year old college student with a degree in criminal justice...means he works for Wackenhut.
YorkVol is online now  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-16-2012, 01:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
The White Debonair
 
OrangeEmpire's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Whiteville!
Posts: 75,039
Likes: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkVol View Post
26 year old college student with a degree in criminal justice...means he works for Wackenhut.
One of the most worthless degrees out there
OrangeEmpire is offline   Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 09:39 AM   #20 (permalink)
No Words
 
Slydell's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nutopia
Posts: 43,327
Likes: 1,928
Treyvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room - ABC News
Slydell is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 03:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
The White Debonair
 
OrangeEmpire's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Whiteville!
Posts: 75,039
Likes: 781
Lord have mercy..........
OrangeEmpire is offline   Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 04:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
Flammable when sparked!
 
vollygirl's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Chattanooga
Posts: 32,383
Likes: 5,486
This makes me so sick I can't stand it.
__________________
Curious people are interesting people. I wonder why that is?
vollygirl is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 04:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
VN GURU
 
WA_Vol's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Seattle
Posts: 18,529
Likes: 502
Quote:
Originally Posted by KoachKrab127 View Post
Trayvon Martin Case Sent To State Attorney's Office Amid Growing Tension, Questions About Police Probe

Seventeen year old Trayvon Martin was walking home from a store as a neighborhood watch clown, 26 year old George Zimmerman called 911 and reported a "suspicious individual." Cops told Zimmerman not to confront the teen, but Zimmerman did, then shot and killed him. Police have not arrested Zimmerman, who claims self defense. The only things Martin had were a bottle of iced tea and a bag of skittles. A witness claims she heard Trayvon yell for help, then heard a gun shot. Police investigation has been HORRIBLE. The article talks a lot about that failure.
sounds like murder to me
WA_Vol is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 04:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
Flammable when sparked!
 
vollygirl's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Chattanooga
Posts: 32,383
Likes: 5,486
How is it NOT murder? Why is there a question at all? I don't get it??
__________________
Curious people are interesting people. I wonder why that is?
vollygirl is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 04:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
Master Member
 
The Ron Mexico's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The LBC
Posts: 18,973
Likes: 2,865
I'm struggling to think of a single situation where this could possibly be self defense. Based on the facts that have been presented so far, Mr Zimmerman belongs in prison. For a very long time.
The Ron Mexico is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 04:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
The White Debonair
 
OrangeEmpire's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Whiteville!
Posts: 75,039
Likes: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ron Mexico View Post
I'm struggling to think of a single situation where this could possibly be self defense. Based on the facts that have been presented so far, Mr Zimmerman belongs in prison. For a very long time.
There is something else, Zimmerman a son of someone "important"?

Zimmerman a home owner?
OrangeEmpire is offline   Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 04:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
The White Debonair
 
OrangeEmpire's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Whiteville!
Posts: 75,039
Likes: 781
There are several troubling thoughts, but a huge wtf about there not being pc.....

WTF
OrangeEmpire is offline   Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-17-2012, 09:20 PM   #28 (permalink)
TOP
Senior Member
 
TOP's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 21,301
Likes: 1,876
Wts***

If things are as they appear, this is murder. If this is not murder, everyone should be free to kill.
TOP is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-18-2012, 12:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
lawgator1's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Winter Springs, Fla.
Posts: 30,162
Likes: 2,970
You need to understand a few things about the background on this, which are not included in the story that OP has posted.

First, when police got there, Zimmerman was bleeding from his own wounds.

Second, the investigators interviewed these witnesses, some of who originally said they heard Zimmerman yelling for help. not the teen. And only after the uproar and the arrival in town of some classic leaders, have these folks now changed their stories to say that it was the teen yelling for help, not Zimmerman. Very odd.

Zimmerman should not have gotten out of the car to confront the teen, I'd agree with that. And he likely would have a huge problem because of that in a civil case. But Florida has a stand your ground law, and if 1) he confronted the teen (even when he shouldn't) and was attacked by the teen; and 2) if it is Zimmerman yelling for help trying to get away from the teen and resorts to a gun in self defense, then I can see the quandry that the police are in here in investigating the case.

What people don't understand is that the police in a case like this just investigate then turn it over to the prosecutor for a decision on whether to pursue criminal charges. Under Florida law, they cannot make an arrest without probable cause and the fact is that the physical evidence does not co0ntradict Zimmerman's claim of self defense. Indeed, in many respects it supports it. And so, the police are not going to arrest in this situation --- instead they will let the prosecutor decide whether to bring charges.

Also, I'd point out that the police have themselves asked the DOJ to come in and look at their investigation. This is a very difficult situation for the police -- let's not jump to any unwarranted conclusions.
lawgator1 is online now  
VN Likes: 2
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 03-18-2012, 01:18 PM   #30 (permalink)
No Words
 
Slydell's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nutopia
Posts: 43,327
Likes: 1,928
One story I read said that a witness told the police they heard Martin crying/yelling for help. The witness said the police corrected them and told them they had heard Zimmerman calling for help. I saw in one story where it was reported that Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose and the back of his head. Would the police have taken pictures of this?

I don't understand the intent in this case of the stand your ground law. So if someone goes after another person for whatever reason, confronts them/possibly provoking them and then kills them, it could be qualified as self defense? Serious question.
Slydell is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27