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Originally Posted by thagodfather  Steve Beurerlein had a long NFL career, also. | 
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02-25-2012, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by thagodfather Dupree wasn't over hyped. The hype was deserved. | How did his pro career turn out? How many heismans? Did he play for one college team, or did he hop around? Yeah he was overhyped. Remind me of how many yards he gained as an NFL player.
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02-26-2012, 04:49 AM
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02-26-2012, 06:25 AM
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| One that comes to mind is Matt Leinart, but maybe that's just my opinion based on the fact that I have an LA buddy who always reps USC.
I just always heard he was the best ever. | |
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02-26-2012, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Escape Goat How did his pro career turn out? How many heismans? Did he play for one college team, or did he hop around? Yeah he was overhyped. Remind me of how many yards he gained as an NFL player. | To me over hyped is when an athlete is not really as good as said player is hyped up to be. Dupree was every bit as good as the hype. He just made some bad decisions that ruined his career. You are describing a bust. There is a difference. Also when you respond to my posts, i'll respect your opinions alot more if you come back with statements and not smart ass questions. Fwiw.
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02-26-2012, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nbakerld One that comes to mind is Matt Leinart, but maybe that's just my opinion based on the fact that I have an LA buddy who always reps USC.
I just always heard he was the best ever. | Leinart was over hyped. | |
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02-26-2012, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Crew | What does that mean exactly? Please, elaborate. Beuerlein played for 17 seasons in the NFL. I would call that a long NFL career. | |
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02-26-2012, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hndog609 Uh huh. David Tyree is first ballot HOF then, right?
A few highlights does not a great player make. Hell, how many great (and I do mean GREAT) players never even had a chance to play in a SB. Off the top of my head how many RB's played in a SB but were better than Barry Sanders or Earl Campbell? Few? Any? (We could dedicate a whole thread to great players who never made a SB/Final Four/World Series/etc)
C'mon man, I get the "big stage playmaker" argument but the guy's career seasonal average was 37c/607yds/6td's. Swann most certainly didn't suck. I even like the fact he was local. (Alcoa) But when he gets his name dropped like he's one of the all-timers at the position by some I simply find it bewildering. | Tyree played in one super bowl and had one outstanding play. Comparing what he did to Swann is ludicrous. Swann also, played in a run first offense. The Steeler didn't exactly throw the ball around. Bradshaw would throw one up from time to time and Swann would go get it more times than not. Times were different then. You must be young. | |
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02-26-2012, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hndog609 Uh huh. David Tyree is first ballot HOF then, right?
A few highlights does not a great player make. Hell, how many great (and I do mean GREAT) players never even had a chance to play in a SB. Off the top of my head how many RB's played in a SB but were better than Barry Sanders or Earl Campbell? Few? Any? (We could dedicate a whole thread to great players who never made a SB/Final Four/World Series/etc)
C'mon man, I get the "big stage playmaker" argument but the guy's career seasonal average was 37c/607yds/6td's. Swann most certainly didn't suck. I even like the fact he was local. (Alcoa) But when he gets his name dropped like he's one of the all-timers at the position by some I simply find it bewildering. | Go check out a list of Swann's highlights and then realize how few opportunities that he had to make plays such as those and how many times that he came down with the ball. Not many receivers that played could consistently catch the balls that he could go get. That's why he is a hall of famer. Stats don't always tell the story and that's what you have to realize. | |
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Originally Posted by thagodfather To me over hyped is when an athlete is not really as good as said player is hyped up to be. Dupree was every bit as good as the hype. He just made some bad decisions that ruined his career. You are describing a bust. There is a difference. Also when you respond to my posts, i'll respect your opinions alot more if you come back with statements and not smart ass questions. Fwiw. | I always thought he never panned out because of injuries. I caught the last half of the 30 for 30 documentary on him and it seemed kinda sad that a dude THAT good didn't make it.... | |
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02-26-2012, 01:49 PM
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| Collegiate steroids in the 80s created a lot of overhyping
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02-26-2012, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by _vol JaMarcus Russell
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Originally Posted by crusse10 Greg Oden gets a bad rap. He wasn't overhyped, just brittle. There's a difference between being plagued with injuries and being plagued with being a bad player overhyped. | Regardless of why someone does not perform does not disqualify the hype. Oden was hyped alongside Durant. We know the rest of the story. | |
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02-26-2012, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by _vol Regardless of why someone does not perform does not disqualify the hype. Oden was hyped alongside Durant. We know the rest of the story. | Sean Taylor only played 3 and a half years. He was the 5th pick in the NFL, one of the highest picks ever for a safety. Was he overhyped?
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