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Originally Posted by MWR I knew a man named Rubin and a man named Conley. They were know respectively as Rube and Con. When you crossed either of them, the time for negotiations was over and done.
Meanwhile, I understand that 'negotiations' had been going on for years in the govt. and apparently no acceptable solutions were found. So the acceptable solution was to have men fire on their own countrymen. And then kill each other. And cause some scars that may not be fully healed unto this day.
When supposedly civilized people take these actions, you gotta know that there is more than common sense driving them. | Or maybe "less than common sense driving them." |
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04-13-2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Grizz Yes I knew that. Western ky leaned more toward the south though. Eastern ky was really split but had more union sympathizers Posted via VolNation Mobile | People always say the Civil War wasn't about slavery, but the pro-union areas had few slave-holders and few slaves and the pro-Confederacy had at least a few prodigious slave-holders.
Obviously it wasn't as simple as one issue, but that is what seemed to ultimately tip loyalties. East Tennessee didn't have much slavery, as farm plots were small due to geography and the soil quality marginal. |
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04-13-2011, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Grizz Yes I knew that. Western ky leaned more toward the south though. Eastern ky was really split but had more union sympathizers Posted via VolNation Mobile | True, I was speaking more to the official status of the state. They started off as being neutral but, after Polk failed, they requested Union assistance. |
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04-13-2011, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JTrainDavis
I thought it was good, as far as knowledge, maybe a link.
Hoping it stays as a "this day" thread for 4+ years. | I came here to say that I look forward to this thread for the next 4+ years.
Great thread idea.
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04-13-2011, 12:54 PM
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| Knoxville has quite a large place in Civil War history.
It is worth it to take some time to visit the different areas of Knoxville that were here during the War.
One of my favorites in the Bleak House (Confederate Memorial Hall) off Kingston Pike. It was used by General Longstreet during the Siege of Knoxville in 1863. There are still bullet and cannonball holes in the walls. The tower, used by snipers during the war, still has bloodstains on the walls. It also has a small drawing on the wall of 3 men who supposedly were killed in action in the tower.
Very neat place to check out
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04-13-2011, 01:01 PM
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| So, the tally two days into the war -one killed and one mortally wounded and a dead horse. Bet these figures are going to change.
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04-13-2011, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MWR So, two days into the war and we have one killed and one mortally wounded and a dead horse. Bet these figures are going to change. | No spoilers, plz.  |
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04-13-2011, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PandamoniumReigns Knoxville has quite a large place in Civil War history.
It is worth it to take some time to visit the different areas of Knoxville that were here during the War.
One of my favorites in the Bleak House (Confederate Memorial Hall) off Kingston Pike. It was used by General Longstreet during the Siege of Knoxville in 1863. There are still bullet and cannonball holes in the walls. The tower, used by snipers during the
war, still has bloodstains on the walls. It
also has a small drawing on the wall of 3
men who supposedly were killed in action in
the tower.
Very neat place to check out | I've seen that place on Tennessee crossroads. I would like to visit Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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04-13-2011, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IPorange No spoilers, plz.  | Oooops. |
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04-13-2011, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by therealUT I am not sure I agree with that. Being that there were no casualties, I think there was still a huge opportunity for negotiations. | Not so sure, given Lincoln was the biggest force in the entire war. |
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04-13-2011, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PandamoniumReigns Knoxville has quite a large place in Civil War history.
It is worth it to take some time to visit the different areas of Knoxville that were here during the War.
One of my favorites in the Bleak House (Confederate Memorial Hall) off Kingston Pike. It was used by General Longstreet during the Siege of Knoxville in 1863. There are still bullet and cannonball holes in the walls. The tower, used by snipers during the war, still has bloodstains on the walls. It also has a small drawing on the wall of 3 men who supposedly were killed in action in the tower.
Very neat place to check out | Helluva place to have a wedding reception too.  |
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04-13-2011, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JTrainDavis April 12, 1861-South Carolina secessionists under P.G.T. Beaureguard, assisted by future Confederate Corps commander Stephen D. Lee, commence a bombardment of Fort Sumter, in Charleston Harbor.
The Rubicon has been crossed, though nobody knows the cost. | It is the opinion of most that the South started the war, but Lincoln was looking to rumble. He had told S Carolina he would withdraw troops from Sumter. After he delayed in this task, S Carolina threatened to fire on reinforcements. Lincoln forced their hand when he sent reinforcements and he used the shots fired (nobody killed) as an excuse to initiate the next 8 conflicts and set us down a path to the bloodiest, most miserable, and unnecessary war in American history.  |
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04-13-2011, 04:10 PM
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| The ACW revisionist thread is back! |
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| fun thread. I'm in.
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