Rep. John Dingell (D-MI), "...put the legislation together to control the people."

[VolDad]

The harsh fact of the matter is when you're going to pass legislation that will cover 300 [million] American people in different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people.

American Thinker Blog: Rep. Dingell: It's taken a long time to 'control the people'

[volfanjustin]

We knew this was the goal all along. I am just glad to see they actually admitted it.

[Vol Mania 21]

this happened a wk or 2 ago. i heard it on the radio.

[volfanjustin]

Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21

this happened a wk or 2 ago. i heard it on the radio.

I saw it then also and I showed the actual text to everyone I came in contact with, just to show them the government's real intentions.

[gsvol]

We know the democrats seek central government control of every aspect of our lives, their agenda makes that painfully obvious but it is a bit surprising that one of their useful idiots would come right out and say it.

You wouldn't expect that sort of arrogance even from a damned arrogant democrat.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology. Its importance has been...increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated."
Bertrand Russell

[paul1454]

But .... but .... I thought the purpose was to redistribute wealth? FOXNews.com - Democratic Senator: Health Care Law to Address 'Mal-Distribution of Income'

[bam15]

Originally Posted by paul1454

But .... but .... I thought the purpose was to redistribute wealth? FOXNews.com - Democratic Senator: Health Care Law to Address 'Mal-Distribution of Income'

Paul, horizontal equity is intolerable - thus the need for a reduction in the income divide and vertical equity.
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[utvolpj]

you must love Robin Hood

[g8terh8ter_eric]

The US is the richest, yet most giving/charitable country in the world. Those clamoring for rich people to give up their wealth are just envious of the process it took them to obtain it. You want money, go to the library and educate yourself for free. If people actually found out you can learn as much in a public library as going to college, colleges wouldn't be near as plentiful as they are. Even trade schools would be far and few between.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric

The US is the richest, yet most giving/charitable country in the world. Those clamoring for rich people to give up their wealth are just envious of the process it took them to obtain it. You want money, go to the library and educate yourself for free. If people actually found out you can learn as much in a public library as going to college, colleges wouldn't be near as plentiful as they are. Even trade schools would be far and few between.

sounds like some of the silliness from a ridiculous Ben Affleck movie.

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

sounds like some of the silliness from a ridiculous Ben Affleck movie.

So, your in the company that people are too stupid to realize that you can get a free education at the library??

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric

So, your in the company that people are too stupid to realize that you can get a free education at the library??

apparently, or maybe one that realizes reading books isn't the key to all knowledge either. Heck, I might even believe that college has more to offer than classroom education. It's crazy to think that the vast majority of education happens outside of books and tests, but I'm one of those stupid people who believe it true.

Let me know the next time Dewey Decimal reaches out and figures out how to challenge you or asks you to think critically.

[IPorange]

Guided and structured education, like you receive in college, can not be duplicated on one's own in a public library.

Probably half of college students squander their education, and don't get the full effect from it. But the ones that put in the time and work and get the grades are definitely better off for it.

I don't think it's accurate to say public library education can substitute or supplant college or trade school education.


I certainly wouldn't want a doctor who studied up at the public library.

[IPorange]

And when I think about it, the most educational experiences in college were not book or lecture based, but rather were in the form of projects and discussions.

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

apparently, or maybe one that realizes reading books isn't the key to all knowledge either. Heck, I might even believe that college has more to offer than classroom education. It's crazy to think that the vast majority of education happens outside of books and tests, but I'm one of those stupid people who believe it true.

Let me know the next time Dewey Decimal reaches out and figures out how to challenge you or asks you to think critically.

I'm in agreement with you, but I do believe that people who attend college and have crappy majors, could do the same things at home and spend 90-95% less money over those 4 years and still get the knowledge earlier, without all the hubbub. Now, if people want to experience college, which it's more of an experience than anything else, I could think of things that $40-50k would be better served to be used for, for the majority of young adults. I wish my wife would have taken that approach honestly, she could have spent 80% less than the $55k we are paying back, and come out with more certifications earlier and been making more money in the time it took her to go through school.