Afghanistan

[volinbham]

the problem with the date of removal is that we are trying to convince warlords and the people of Afghan. to reject the Taliban and side with ? (Afghan govt?). Would you go against the Taliban that will be there still when we leave or take a wait and see attitude?

We need to crush the Taliban or pack it up and go home.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

He'll be criticized by the margins on both the left and the right for this. The far left will complain that he promised to end the war and instead is sending more troops. The far right will complain because they don't like him and no matter what he decided it would, in their view, be wrong.

This type of excuse making for your boy being criticized for horrendous decisions is why you've marginalized yourself. Often the right criticizes the man because he is a far, far, far left agenda driven empty suit.

He makes a decent financial comment or decision, I'll give him his due. So for, he's in the midst of a long 0fer.
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[gsvol]

The Worst Kind Of Scheduling Conflict.

[volinbham]

Originally Posted by gsvol

Haven't seen this one in a long time

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by volinbham

Haven't seen this one in a long time

Veeeeeeeeeeeeery interesting!

[kptvol]

He pronounced "Pakistan" differently tonight.

[rjd970]

Question for the veterans and military board members....what is the protocol for applause when the president addresses a military audience? I always thought because he was the CIC there was supposed to be a formality that is different than how citizens respond to the POTUS. I thought applause, if any, would be held until the end of the speech.

Forgive me if it is a stupid question.

[OrangeWilly]

Originally Posted by rjd970

Question for the veterans and military board members....what is the protocol for applause when the president addresses a military audience? I always thought because he was the CIC there was supposed to be a formality that is different than how citizens respond to the POTUS. I thought applause, if any, would be held until the end of the speech.

Forgive me if it is a stupid question.

I was at Eglin AFB, FL when Pres Bush spoke about the war following 9/11. There is no protocol as far as I know.

I agree with the strategy. I, like John McCain said after the speech, only have a problem with setting a date to withdrawal.

[BeecherVol]

He wants to send 30,000 troops, (when 40,000 was requested) months after they were requested, and then start withdrawing in 18 months?

I guess I should not expect anything more out of him.
Wow!

[gsvol]

Full Text of the Obama speech.

Teleprompter in chief omitted "God bless our troops."

Another point; in the speech he said; "The day of blank checks is over."

Au contraire Piere, how about Bosnia????

(1201/2009)

The United Nations Security Council extended this month the EUFOR mandate for one more year, citing political obstacles for the return of some 117,000 people displaced during and after the 1992-95 war in the former Yugoslav republic.

"In technical, military terms, the country can be considered stable," Italian Major-General Stefano Castagnotto said in a farewell news conference."You have a unified army and I don't see any outside threat from neighbouring countries."

He said there was no potential for a new internal conflict any time soon, but using troops was a complex decision-making process with a political dimension.

"It's a political decision," he said about extending the EUFOR mandate.

Obama Relishes in Anti-Christian Rhetoric

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by BeecherVol

He wants to send 30,000 troops, (when 40,000 was requested) months after they were requested, and then start withdrawing in 18 months?

I guess I should not expect anything more out of him.
Wow!

As he pointed out last night, the problem with that criticism is that the request was for the troops to be placed there not immediately but in 2010, which is what he's doing.

[BeecherVol]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

As he pointed out last night, the problem with that criticism is that the request was for the troops to be placed there not immediately but in 2010, which is what he's doing.

And then start bringing them home 18 months later?

What does he expect that to accomplish?

Other than appeasing the far left, that wants all of our troops to leave both fronts.

He is behind fighting terrorism, about as much as I am about my taxes going up.

[BeecherVol]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

As he pointed out last night, the problem with that criticism is that the request was for the troops to be placed there not immediately but in 2010, which is what he's doing.

Im not sure I believe what he said about the date anyway. If he had made the decision when he should have, we would be 3 months ahead of schedule. Im sure the General was expecting to get them months after the decision was made, just not sure he expected Obama to take 3 months to make up his mind.

Has more to do with Politics, than war strategy. Thus the, we will start withdrawing in 18 months.

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by BeecherVol

Im not sure I believe what he said about the date anyway. If he had made the decision when he should have, we would be 3 months ahead of schedule. Im sure the General was expecting to get them months after the decision was made, just not sure he expected Obama to take 3 months to make up his mind.

Has more to do with Politics, than war strategy. Thus the, we will start withdrawing in 18 months.

Ohhhhh..... not a good comment from someone who supported Bush and Cheney.

[joevol320]

Originally Posted by BeecherVol

Im not sure I believe what he said about the date anyway. If he had made the decision when he should have, we would be 3 months ahead of schedule. Im sure the General was expecting to get them months after the decision was made, just not sure he expected Obama to take 3 months to make up his mind.

Has more to do with Politics, than war strategy. Thus the, we will start withdrawing in 18 months.

by the time all the soldiers get there, 18 months will be over.