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11-04-2009, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan  If that was always the case, many states in the south would probably still be supporting segregation.
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11-04-2009, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by volinbham False argument - segregration has been ruled unconstitutional. The gay marriage issue has not received similar protection. | That's fine with me. I'm not in favor of gay marriage, and I'm not saying it should be allowed. I would probably vote against it. I'm just saying don't wait for the people to come around. Sometimes the Government needs to step in there, like they did with segregation.
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11-04-2009, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IPorange What you are really saying is you are fine with going with the whims of the mob. I'd say that is something you should reconsider. | That is not what I am saying. I can't believe you all trust a lawyer in a wrobe or a politician more than the people. Do states rights not matter to you all? | |
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11-04-2009, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan That's fine with me. I'm not in favor of gay marriage, and I'm not saying it should be allowed. I would probably vote against it. I'm just saying don't wait for the people to come around. Sometimes the Government needs to step in there, like they did with segregation. | Where do you draw the line with the interference of the federal govt? | |
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11-04-2009, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan That's fine with me. I'm not in favor of gay marriage, and I'm not saying it should be allowed. I would probably vote against it. I'm just saying don't wait for the people to come around. Sometimes the Government needs to step in there, like they did with segregation. | On what grounds should they step in? If gay marriage bans are not unconstitutional what authority does the government have to overturn the will of the people?
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11-04-2009, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by volfanjustin Do states rights not matter to you all? | this isn't 1776. i couldn't give a crap about states rights. | |
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11-04-2009, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by droski this isn't 1776. i couldn't give a crap about states rights. | I don't care what year it is, states do have rights and the federal govt has no right to interfere. | |
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11-04-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by droski this isn't 1776. i couldn't give a crap about states rights. | That is the precise reason why we have a behemoth of a federal government, that cannot do the smallest of tasks without spending gazillions of dollars or pork projects and special interests and running over the rights of the individual. | |
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11-04-2009, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack4 That is the precise reason why we have a behemoth of a federal government, that cannot do the smallest of tasks without spending gazillions of dollars or pork projects and special interests and running over the rights of the individual. | and what state doesn't do exactly the same thing except just on a smaller scale? | |
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11-04-2009, 03:31 PM
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Why in the world would any one give the gov't the power to choose what marriage is?
Why people hate freedom is beyond me.
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11-04-2009, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire Stuff like this drives me absolutely crazy.
Why in the world would any one give the gov't the power to choose what marriage is?
Why people hate freedom is beyond me. | so you are pro gay marriage then? because the current law is restricting freedom. | |
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11-04-2009, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by droski and what state doesn't do exactly the same thing except just on a smaller scale? | its a heck of a lot easier to hold a state government responsible than a national government. The farther away the people who makes the decision move from you the easier it is for them to do their own will rather than the people's will whom they represent. The 10th Amendment is simply an inconvenience for the nation government and as such has been ignored for 150 years. | |
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11-04-2009, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire Stuff like this drives me absolutely crazy.
Why in the world would any one give the gov't the power to choose what marriage is?
Why people hate freedom is beyond me. | I agree with everything in this post...aside from the text formatting.
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11-04-2009, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vader I agree with everything in this post...aside from the text formatting. | 
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11-04-2009, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by droski so you are pro gay marriage then? because the current law is restricting freedom. | I could freakin care less if a dude wants to fudge pack another dude. If two girls just like tacos and are cute, record it and send it to me! We are either free or we are not!
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