Maine Votes No To Gay Marriage

[volfanjustin]

Originally Posted by utvolpj

they probably didn't vote because it doesn't matter to them and has zero impact on their lives. For some reason the bible bangers seem to think if gays marry it will instantly cause riots in the streets and 12yo girls marrying goats.

If they don't care that is fine, but they could have cast a vote if it mattered. I am against gay marriage, but if a state wants to have it then fine. Every state that has put this issue on the ballot has rejected it. Who do you want making this decision?

[volfanjustin]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

If that was always the case, many states in the south would probably still be supporting segregation.

And I am in no way trying to promote gay marriage with that post. I was just trying to make a point.

No state would support segregation. I always support states making decisions.

[lumberjack4]

Originally Posted by utvolpj

and I'm a big fan of taking the choice out of the hands of stupid citizens. There are plenty of things that would have had a hard time passing if it was left up to the will of the people

What happened to a government for the people by the people? It should never be easy for a government to impose its will upon its citizens.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by volfanjustin

No state would support segregation. I always support states making decisions.

In what year would Alabama have decided to do away with it? When did the switch go off in the heads of the people?

[volfanjustin]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

In what year would Alabama have decided to do away with it? When did the switch go off in the heads of the people?

You have got to be kidding, well I now know you don't have a legitimate arguement because its time to pull the race card.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by volfanjustin

You have got to be kidding, well I now know you don't have a legitimate arguement because its time to pull the race card.

I never said I support gay marriage. I'm against it actually. I'm just not going to pretend that a state as backwards as some were in the 1960's would have come around if they weren't basically ordered to do so. Look at the response to the little rock 9? When were the racist trash denying blacks entrance to the school going to decide segregation was a bad thing? Should the government have just waited for them to die out?

[volfanjustin]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

I never said I support gay marriage. I'm against it actually. I'm just not going to pretend that a state as backwards as some were in the 1960's would have come around if they weren't basically ordered to do so. Look at the response to the little rock 9? When were the racist trash denying blacks entrance to the school going to decide segregation was a bad thing? Should the government have just waited for them to die out?

I am just for states rights, I have more faith in the american people than I do a lawyer, judge or any person in the govt. If you disagree with a decision made in a state you can leave that state. So lets say that a state votes on segregation and votes to keep it, then one could move to a state that has voted it down. And again I don't think any state would vote for segregation.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by volfanjustin

I am just for states rights, I have more faith in the american people than I do a lawyer, judge or any person in the govt. If you disagree with a decision made in a state you can leave that state. So lets say that a state votes on segregation and votes to keep it, then one could move to a state that has voted it down. And again I don't think any state would vote for segregation.

So we should have just let states like Alabama and Arkansas just keep going with segregation until they decided to come around?

[volfanjustin]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

So we should have just let states like Alabama and Arkansas just keep going with segregation until they decided to come around?

For one you don't have any evidence to support your theory that they would still want it.
Think of it this way, would you rather a state put a law into place that you are completely against or the country as a whole be forced to take a law that you are completely against?

[lumberjack4]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

So we should have just let states like Alabama and Arkansas just keep going with segregation until they decided to come around?

In all fairness the US kept going with segregation until it came around.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by volfanjustin

For one you don't have any evidence to support your theory that they would still want it.
Think of it this way, would you rather a state put a law into place that you are completely against or the country as a whole be forced to take a law that you are completely against?

The State obviously. What's the point. That doesn't change anything I have said. I'm going to say that I'm very glad desegregation was forced upon those states instead of waiting for them to come around.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by lumberjack4

In all fairness the US kept going with segregation until it came around.

How did it come around? Certainly not by the citizens voting that way.

[volfanjustin]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

The State obviously. What's the point. That doesn't change anything I have said. I'm going to say that I'm very glad desegregation was forced upon those states instead of waiting for them to come around.

The point is if you are in state that had segregation and you don't like it you can leave, you can move to a different state.
If Tennessee decided to allow gay marriage, fine. I disagree with that move but the people had a chance to vote on it. If they voted it in then I would have to make a choice to stay here or move to a state that did not allow it.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by volfanjustin

The point is if you are in state that had segregation and you don't like it you can leave, you can move to a different state.

I definitely glad the Supreme Court didn't feel that way.

[IPorange]

Originally Posted by volfanjustin

The point is if you are in state that had segregation and you don't like it you can leave, you can move to a different state.
If Tennessee decided to allow gay marriage, fine. I disagree with that move but the people had a chance to vote on it. If they voted it in then I would have to make a choice to stay here or move to a state that did not allow it.

What you are really saying is you are fine with going with the whims of the mob. I'd say that is something you should reconsider.