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10-26-2009, 08:44 AM
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| | On a Hallowed hill
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| LG, will you represent me when I sue the gov't when healthcare passes?
I'll sue the gov't and it will go to the supreme court because it is unlawful for the gov't to force you to have an insurance policy. You can have all the money and attention from the case LG! 
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10-26-2009, 10:10 AM
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| | Irrelevant since 09/2007
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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| the bill wont pass with a public option | |
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10-26-2009, 10:18 AM
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| | surrender da 99 bananas!
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the front lines
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| of course, lawyers have no loyalty to a cause,
they have the spines of a jellyfish
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10-26-2009, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by droski  the bill wont pass with a public option | I don't know, it could be close. | |
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10-26-2009, 10:43 AM
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| | Orange Juiced
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Knoxville
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Originally Posted by droski the bill wont pass with a public option | I'm afraid that's what most of us think... "no way this passes.. this is America"
I'm not sure that the D's don't go ahead and pass it regardless of the political consequences... once it's law, there will be no going back | |
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10-26-2009, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire I'll sue the gov't and it will go to the supreme court because it is unlawful for the gov't to force you to have an insurance policy. You can have all the money and attention from the case LG! |
Same way it's unlawful for the gov't to make you have auto insurance? | |
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10-26-2009, 01:24 PM
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| | On a Hallowed hill
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Delaware, OH
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| Heck, if LG will represent me, I will push that also.
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10-26-2009, 02:40 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Winter Springs, Fla.
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| Its unconstitutional to require that people have health insurance?
Why is that?
I know that Florida requires that I have car insurance and that if I don't I'm not allowed to drive -- its a criminal offense.
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10-26-2009, 02:42 PM
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| | On a Hallowed hill
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 Its unconstitutional to require that people have health insurance?
Why is that?
I know that Florida requires that I have car insurance and that if I don't I'm not allowed to drive -- its a criminal offense. | U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net Heck yeah it is unconstitutional!
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10-26-2009, 02:43 PM
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| | Voide of Reason
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 Its unconstitutional to require that people have health insurance?
Why is that?
I know that Florida requires that I have car insurance and that if I don't I'm not allowed to drive -- its a criminal offense. | You are not required to have insurance to drive. You can drive around your property all day long and they can say nothing. You need the insurance to drive state roads and highways. They can legislate that. | |
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10-26-2009, 05:40 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya
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Originally Posted by VolDad You are not required to have insurance to drive. You can drive around your property all day long and they can say nothing. You need the insurance to drive state roads and highways. They can legislate that. | Exactly. Plus, you're only required to insure someone else via liability insurance. Never have to insure yourself. Posted via VolNation Mobile | |
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10-26-2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol Exactly. Plus, you're only required to insure someone else via liability insurance. Never have to insure yourself.
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That's wrong. Florida is a no fault state, meaning you are insuring your own med bills up to about $10k.
Besides which, a certain percentage of your insurance is designed to offset the costs created by the uninsured. They get shifted to you.
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10-26-2009, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire |
And it says they can't mandate insurance exactly where?
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10-26-2009, 08:09 PM
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| | doo doo doo
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 And it says they can't mandate insurance exactly where? | It says what they CAN do. There is a specific list and this clause Quote: |
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
| If you can't tie it to the list (or the list of other gov. branches), it's not part of their power.
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