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Old 10-26-2009, 07:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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LG, will you represent me when I sue the gov't when healthcare passes?

I'll sue the gov't and it will go to the supreme court because it is unlawful for the gov't to force you to have an insurance policy.

You can have all the money and attention from the case LG!

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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LG and attention? Please.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the bill wont pass with a public option
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of course, lawyers have no loyalty to a cause,

they have the spines of a jellyfish
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the bill wont pass with a public option
I don't know, it could be close.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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the bill wont pass with a public option
I'm afraid that's what most of us think... "no way this passes.. this is America"

I'm not sure that the D's don't go ahead and pass it regardless of the political consequences... once it's law, there will be no going back
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I'll sue the gov't and it will go to the supreme court because it is unlawful for the gov't to force you to have an insurance policy.

You can have all the money and attention from the case LG!


Same way it's unlawful for the gov't to make you have auto insurance?
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Heck, if LG will represent me, I will push that also.
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Its unconstitutional to require that people have health insurance?

Why is that?

I know that Florida requires that I have car insurance and that if I don't I'm not allowed to drive -- its a criminal offense.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Its unconstitutional to require that people have health insurance?

Why is that?

I know that Florida requires that I have car insurance and that if I don't I'm not allowed to drive -- its a criminal offense.
U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Heck yeah it is unconstitutional!
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Its unconstitutional to require that people have health insurance?

Why is that?

I know that Florida requires that I have car insurance and that if I don't I'm not allowed to drive -- its a criminal offense.
You are not required to have insurance to drive. You can drive around your property all day long and they can say nothing. You need the insurance to drive state roads and highways. They can legislate that.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You are not required to have insurance to drive. You can drive around your property all day long and they can say nothing. You need the insurance to drive state roads and highways. They can legislate that.
Exactly. Plus, you're only required to insure someone else via liability insurance. Never have to insure yourself.
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Exactly. Plus, you're only required to insure someone else via liability insurance. Never have to insure yourself.
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That's wrong. Florida is a no fault state, meaning you are insuring your own med bills up to about $10k.

Besides which, a certain percentage of your insurance is designed to offset the costs created by the uninsured. They get shifted to you.
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And it says they can't mandate insurance exactly where?
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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And it says they can't mandate insurance exactly where?
It says what they CAN do. There is a specific list and this clause

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To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
If you can't tie it to the list (or the list of other gov. branches), it's not part of their power.
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