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07-14-2009, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1  The original has been examined by a couple of reputable outfits, including most notably the director of Hawaii's Department of Health, who has verified its authenticity.
Now, if by "reputable" you mean some right wing nutjob who will find it fake, even if he was in the room with Obama when he was born, then what can I say. About.com: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html | laygaytor, i'm sure you were one of the many screaming about Bush's face service records back in 2004. | 
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07-14-2009, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KB5252 This is how I feel about the situation. While I think it is possible Obama was born out of country I don't think it to be the most probable. As far as many of his other documents go I believe there is info in them that would be a little embarrassing. The bottom line is Obama has allowed this to become a problem. In one motion he could make these conspiracy theorists look like imbeciles and prove them wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. But he chooses not to, why wouldn't he? That is the question that has me wondering. | that's the big problem with 'the muslim' the dude has not past. exept when he was haning around marxist while in college. he's a pretty evil and cold person. hopefully he'll out in 4 years and his part will be somewhat out of power in 2010. i'm not betting on it because you have a lot of ignorant non-educated democrats that vote. (some 2 and 3 times) | |
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07-14-2009, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KB5252 This is how I feel about the situation. While I think it is possible Obama was born out of country I don't think it to be the most probable. As far as many of his other documents go I believe there is info in them that would be a little embarrassing. The bottom line is Obama has allowed this to become a problem. In one motion he could make these conspiracy theorists look like imbeciles and prove them wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. But he chooses not to, why wouldn't he? That is the question that has me wondering. | It's the same as the constitutional issue of Bush/Cheney in regards to residency.
BHO has provided the docuements and closed the issue. BHO is not making this a "problem". It's the fringe wing nuts that won't let it go. Just like the fringe wings nuts on the other side that kept pointing to the fact that Cheney was a resident of Texas and pestering his neighbors about him actually living there for 5 years.
For all intent and purpose, he has proven his citizenship beyond a shadow of a doubt. | |
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07-14-2009, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by UT IE 95 It's the same as the constitutional issue of Bush/Cheney in regards to residency. |
Not exactly - perhaps under the residency rules Cheney would have been barred from being VP if Bush was POTUS. For BO, he would be barred from being POTUS.
(not saying I think he's not a citizen - the issues are distinct though).
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07-14-2009, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by volinbham Not exactly - perhaps under the residency rules Cheney would have been barred from being VP if Bush was POTUS. For BO, he would be barred from being POTUS.
(not saying I think he's not a citizen - the issues are distinct though). | So there are degrees of breaking the constitution?
And let's face it, Cheney being barred in the Bush administration would be just as significant as BHO being barred. | |
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07-14-2009, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by UT IE 95 So there are degrees of breaking the constitution?
No - there are different remedies though depending on which aspect is broken.
And let's face it, Cheney being barred in the Bush administration would be just as significant as BHO being barred. | Pure speculation - somethings would have been the same, others may have been different. Besides, this is wholly irrelevant to the point. In BO's case, the constitutional violation would have legally prevented him from being POTUS. In Bush's case, it would not have.
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07-14-2009, 03:56 PM
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| ....lol at this thread. Lawgator, let it go man....just let it go. | 
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07-14-2009, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by volinbham Pure speculation - somethings would have been the same, others may have been different. Besides, this is wholly irrelevant to the point. In BO's case, the constitutional violation would have legally prevented him from being POTUS. In Bush's case, it would not have. | So we find out that BO is not legally in position. We move Biden into the POTUS? Is that what anyone wants?
Seems like this could turn into a "be careful what you ask for" scenario. | |
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07-14-2009, 05:03 PM
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| biden would be better. no chance he gets reelected. he couldn't do any more damage than obama. | |
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07-14-2009, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KB5252 What exactly is astounding? | Why is it astounding? We have a guy that has an accomplice in the media and in many state capitols. Why are you shocked that people don't buy his half answer. Neither you or Obama has provided anything that merits the question dying down.
Again, this would be so simple to dispel, yet our media only empty suit can't seem to make it go away. Does that make any sense whatsoever in your talk radio world? Posted via VolNation Mobile
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07-14-2009, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by UT IE 95 So we find out that BO is not legally in position. We move Biden into the POTUS? Is that what anyone wants?
Seems like this could turn into a "be careful what you ask for" scenario. | If your scenario were true, what I would want is for things to be handled as they are supposed to be handled. Regardless of how I feel about any of them. | |
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07-14-2009, 06:31 PM
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| I don't give a damn if Obama was born on the White House lawn.
He's still the most unqualified man to ever hold the office of POTUS. His actions make that fact more apparent with each passing day. | |
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07-14-2009, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by UT IE 95 It's the same as the constitutional issue of Bush/Cheney in regards to residency.
BHO has provided the docuements and closed the issue. BHO is not making this a "problem". It's the fringe wing nuts that won't let it go. Just like the fringe wings nuts on the other side that kept pointing to the fact that Cheney was a resident of Texas and pestering his neighbors about him actually living there for 5 years.
For all intent and purpose, he has proven his citizenship beyond a shadow of a doubt. | You may believe that to be true but it certainly is NOT true, he has produced nothing. | |
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