Obama's golden camel.

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by T-TownVol

Come on Law, you HAVE to be smarter than this.
BHO PROUDLY claims to have Muslim roots. It is "fair" game.

Originally Posted by droski

if obama was muslim we wouldn't be having these problems because they obviously have no problem takimg people out. we are looking weak and don't tell me that wont lead to more attacks.

No one has any complaint with conservatives complaining that Obama is soft on foreign policy because he's a liberal. Totally fair issue, IMO.

Where it gets nutty, I think, is when the commentators try to extend that to a theory that he's soft on them because he's a Muslim, either card carrying or just at heart. That, to me, is the kind of politics that has the right in such deep trouble right now.

We've got two wars, an economy barely sputtering along, an aging population depending on retirement monies that aren't going to be there, and a host of other real things to deal with and the right-wing commentators spend their time talking about handshakes and bows. People like Obama because, right or wrong, he's serious about getting some things done at a time when they need doing. Even if he makes some poor choices along the way, it finally feels likme there is a proactive leadership.

[IPorange]

A little too proactive for our own good, imo.

[T-TownVol]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

no one has any complaint with conservatives complaining that obama is soft on foreign policy because he's a liberal. Totally fair issue, imo.

Where it gets nutty, i think, is when the commentators try to extend that to a theory that he's soft on them because he's a muslim, either card carrying or just at heart. That, to me, is the kind of politics that has the right in such deep trouble right now.

We've got two wars, an economy barely sputtering along, an aging population depending on retirement monies that aren't going to be there, and a host of other real things to deal with and the right-wing commentators spend their time talking about handshakes and bows. People like obama because, right or wrong, he's serious about getting some things done at a time when they need doing. Even if he makes some poor choices along the way, it finally feels likme there is a proactive leadership.

baaaaa

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by IPorange

A little too proactive for our own good, imo.

A totally legitimate bone of contention, IMO. Way better a topic than whether he is too polite.

[hndog609]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

We've got two wars, an economy barely sputtering along, an aging population depending on retirement monies that aren't going to be there, and a host of other real things to deal with and the right-wing commentators spend their time talking about handshakes and bows.

Even if he makes some poor choices along the way, it finally feels likme there is a proactive leadership.

While I find myself somewhat in agreement with the first part of this I don't think it really helps a pro-Obama argument. It just points out that the critics could be doing a better job hammering the real issues, and there are several.

For the latter part I'm not sure I like the idea of "proactive" necessarily being a good thing in this case. Feels too much like complimenting the lead lemming headed over the cliff as being proactive.

[T-TownVol]

Originally Posted by hndog609

While I find myself somewhat in agreement with the first part of this I don't think it really helps a pro-Obama argument. It just points out that the critics could be doing a better job hammering the real issues, and there are several.

For the latter part I'm not sure I like the idea of "proactive" necessarily being a good thing in this case. Feels too much like complimenting the lead lemming headed over the cliff as being proactive.

or sheep

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by MG1968

Obama himself has touted his Muslim connections, particularly in an effort to mollify the more radical elements of the Muslim world. Thus far, it hasn't worked.

You can say that again, and furthermore, appeasement of tyrants NEVER works because their demands are never ending.

Al-Zawahiri links Obama and Malcolm X.

al Qaeda'a Zawahiri calls Obama “House Negro:”

(BTW, negro and slave are the same word in Arabic)

Where's Jesse Jackson and the NCAAP here????

Where is CAIR and company crying 'bigot?'

What will Obama’s response be, many are wondering today. If you’ve been paying attention, you already know: This is the fool who in the days following the 9/11 attacks wrote that what the jihadists needed was more…empathy.

Even as I hope for some measure of peace and comfort to the bereaved families, I must also hope that we as a nation draw some measure of wisdom from this tragedy. Certain immediate lessons are clear, and we must act upon those lessons decisively. We need to step up security at our airports. We must reexamine the effectiveness of our intelligence networks. And we must be resolute in identifying the perpetrators of these heinous acts and dismantling their organizations of destruction.

We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. (calling a big BS on that one)gs

It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.

(No mention of the two million Christian black Africans killed by the Arab muslims of Sudan, who, when finally stopped by world opinion and made to cease their genocide, sign a treaty and give some autonomy to those people, assassinated the elected Christian leader. That is how they roll, genocide when possible, assassination of opposition leaders in other situations.)gs

We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad. We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.

Barack Hussein Obama

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by IPorange

A little too proactive for our own good, imo.

LG can talk about anything except the topic of the thread.

Ie; the islamo/fascist style rippoff of the American people and economy taking place as we speak.

In a thread about Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve, the Treasury Department (obviously run by someone who is incapable of being anything more than a yes man to moneyed interests), intrusion by islamic banking and other international interests that would just as soon see the America people nothing more than slaves to their system, lg *****es about radio talk show hosts, other posters to which he claims some sort of intellectual superiority (obviously misplaced), Somali pirates and who knows what alll else.

I can hardly wait for his next farewell speech.