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01-22-2009, 01:50 PM
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| | Shut Up and Lift
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| Obama having problems with his own party already?
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01-22-2009, 02:42 PM
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| | Giver of Sexy
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Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21  | Obama isn't going to just allow the Democratic Congress free reign. That is going to cause problems with the succubus that is currently heading the House. | |
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01-22-2009, 02:49 PM
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| i'll give him props if he puts pelosie and harry in their places
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01-22-2009, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21 i'll give him props if he puts pelosie and harry in their places | I can agree with you on that. | |
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01-22-2009, 02:51 PM
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| The congress has much more to fear. The recession probably will not be over in two years and they are not all that popular to begin with. Congress needs to be able to run against Bush one more time. | |
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01-22-2009, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by VolunteerHillbilly The congress has much more to fear. The recession probably will not be over in two years and they are not all that popular to begin with. Congress needs to be able to run against Bush one more time. | I doubt the Republicans catch majorities in either house after the next elections, but they will make major gains. That is assuming they don't start running Christian Coalition lapdogs out there. | |
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01-22-2009, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21 i'll give him props if he puts pelosie and harry in their places |
While his voting record in the Senate would suggest he were as liberal as Pelosi or Reid, I have never thought he was the same type of Democrat as either one of them. Pelosi and Reid are going to be disappointed very soon and often. Obama knows he has to govern more from the center than to the left. It is the only way the country can recover both domestically and economically | |
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01-22-2009, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by truefan While his voting record in the Senate would suggest he were as liberal as Pelosi or Reid, I have never thought he was the same type of Democrat as either one of them. Pelosi and Reid are going to be disappointed very soon and often. Obama knows he has to govern more from the center than to the left. It is the only way the country can recover both domestically and economically | This kind of argument simply makes no sense to me. You're trying to convince everyone that he is different than his voting record to date and that his past pet projects just weren't him.
I don't get that. | 
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01-22-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol This kind of argument simply makes no sense to me. You're trying to convince everyone that he is different than his voting record to date and that his past pet projects just weren't him.
I don't get that. | He is certainly a liberal at heart, but I think he is going to govern from a much more practical standpoint. That is going to ruffle plenty of feathers. | |
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01-22-2009, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by emainvol He is certainly a liberal at heart, but I think he is going to govern from a much more practical standpoint. That is going to ruffle plenty of feathers. | Everyone hopes that is the case (whether the person leans left or right) but what evidence, from Obama, is that based on?
Until it changes his record is who he is.
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01-22-2009, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by emainvol He is certainly a liberal at heart, but I think he is going to govern from a much more practical standpoint. That is going to ruffle plenty of feathers. | the stuff he's focused upon thus far has certainly been heavily left. The recession package is simply the New Deal with less responsibility and the Gitmo stuff is a waste of time. He's quasi closing it down. | |
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01-22-2009, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JZVOL Everyone hope that is the case (whether the person leans left or right) but what evidence, from Obama, is that based on?
Until it changes his record is who he is. | I think the fact that liberal Democrats are already pissed at him is a good indicator as to what direction he will take things. I may be wrong. | |
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01-22-2009, 03:38 PM
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| kind of funny his party is already getting ticked at him day 2 into the job
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01-22-2009, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol the stuff he's focused upon thus far has certainly been heavily left. The recession package is simply the New Deal with less responsibility and the Gitmo stuff is a waste of time. He's quasi closing it down. | I don't disagree, but he has been forced to try to give the economy a shot in the arm. It is interesting that he has already changed his plans somewhat on taxes for businesses and such. | |
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01-22-2009, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by emainvol I don't disagree, but he has been forced to try to give the economy a shot in the arm. It is interesting that he has already changed his plans somewhat on taxes for businesses and such. | are you honestly surprised by this?
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