Should Tennessee emulate Oklahoma??

[gsvol]

Oklahomans are trying to recover some of their lost state sovereignty by House Joint Resolution 1089, introduced by State Rep. Charles Key.

The resolution's language, in part, reads: “Whereas, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows: ‘The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.'; and Whereas, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and whereas, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and Whereas, today, in 2008, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federalgovernment. . Now, therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives and the Senate of the 2nd session of the 51st Oklahoma Legislature: that the State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States. That this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers."

[SLC]

I find that intersting. Do you know specifically why the okies adopted this?

Was it the overall slide into national governance (with diminishing states rights) or were there specific federal mandates/actions this was in response too?

Best,

SLC

[MG1968]

sounds to me like Oklahoma is sick and tired of all the unfunded mandates coming out of Congress.

I personally think it's a good idea although if a state's economy has become dependent on federal dollars, the withdrawal symptoms could last for a while.

[SLC]

Originally Posted by MG1968

sounds to me like Oklahoma is sick and tired of all the unfunded mandates coming out of Congress.

I personally think it's a good idea although if a state's economy has become dependent on federal dollars, the withdrawal symptoms could last for a while.

A lot of states are dependant on the federal dollar. What's Tennessee's position?

[WA_Vol]

I havent heard this discussed on talk radio here. Maybe I will suggest it as a topic.

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by SLC

I find that intersting. Do you know specifically why the okies adopted this?

Was it the overall slide into national governance (with diminishing states rights) or were there specific federal mandates/actions this was in response too?

Best,

SLC

I don't know that it was passed and doubt if it was.

Sure, it's all about the federal government's steady usurping of the rights of the individual states.

Originally Posted by oklavol

I havent heard this discussed on talk radio here. Maybe I will suggest it as a topic.

Maybe when you bring that up you might discuss the fact that the law that brought about the IRS and a federal income tax wasn't ratified by the required 75% of the individual states, seeing how you are one to have such great respect for the law.

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by MG1968

sounds to me like Oklahoma is sick and tired of all the unfunded mandates coming out of Congress.

I personally think it's a good idea although if a state's economy has become dependent on federal dollars, the withdrawal symptoms could last for a while.

Part of that could have been leftover frustration from the Clinton administration's criminal mishandling of the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing event.

[overseasorange2]

Only when it comes to football.....

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by overseasorange2

Only when it comes to football.....

Boo, hiss.


Oklahoma's last ten bowl games:

L 12-29-1994 31-6 BYU - Copper Bowl
L 12-31-1999 27-25 Mississippi - Independence Bowl
W 01-03-2001 13- 2 Florida St. - Orange Bowl
W 01-01-2002 10- 3 Arkansas - Cotton Bowl
W 01-01-2003 34-14 Washington St. - Rose Bowl
L 01-04-2004 21-14 Louisiana St. - Sugar Bowl
L 01-04-2005 55-19 Sou Cal - Orange Bowl
W 12-29-2005 17-14 Oregon - Holiday Bowl
L 01-01-2007 43-42 Boise St. - Fiesta Bowl
L 01-02-2008 48-28 West Virginia - Fiesta Bowl

Tennessee has won 7 bowl games since 1994, nearly twice as many as Oklahoma.

Surely we can do better than that.

Now if you want to talk about beating the Bud Wilkinson consecutive game win streaks, 31 from 1948 to 1950 and 47 from 1953 to 1957, I'm all for that.

[dan4vols]

Residing in Oklahoma I have an opinion on this. Whereas Tennessee as a state seems to actually care about it's residents Oklahoma makes it very clear federal considerations come 1st, then Native americans rights, then the average day to day Oklahoman. The way they illustrate this is how and when they spend, and whose $ it is, local or federal.

[gasguy98]

The Federals have been inching toward tyranny since 1861. Unfortunately it will only continue like the snowball rolling downhill. I don't think it can be stopped now.

[therealUT]

Originally Posted by gasguy98

The Federals have been inching toward tyranny since 1861.

Still smarting from the loss...?

[dan4vols]

Originally Posted by therealUT

Still smarting from the loss...?

Had the south had an infrastructure of munitions and weapons factories Abraham Lincoln would've been know as the surrender president.

[gsvol]

Originally Posted by dan4vols

Residing in Oklahoma I have an opinion on this. Whereas Tennessee as a state seems to actually care about it's residents Oklahoma makes it very clear federal considerations come 1st, then Native americans rights, then the average day to day Oklahoman. The way they illustrate this is how and when they spend, and whose $ it is, local or federal.

How did you vote on the cockfighting issue??

[KYVolFan]

Yo there folks, there was a minor disagreement several years ago argued back and forth by the several states that took better than four years to resolve. That minor squabble cost the states millions upon millions and imeasurable pain and suffering. In time an agreement was reached that determined that States Rights do not exist. The event resolving the issue in case you folks forgot was called the American Civil War or The War of Northern Agression depending upon the perspective.