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Old 12-28-2008, 02:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The REAL cause of the mortgage industry train wreck:

The mortgage crisis is a problem created in Washington long ago. It originated with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), signed into law in 1977 by President Jimmy Carter. The CRA was Carter's answer to a grassroots activist movement started in Chicago, and forced banks to make loans to low income, high risk customers. PhD economist and former Texas Senator Phil Gramm called it "a vast extortion scheme against the nation's banks."

Ironically, an enthusiastic Fannie Mae Foundation report singled out one paragon of nondiscriminatory lending, which worked with community activists and followed "the most flexible underwriting criteria permitted." That lender's $1 billion commitment to low-income loans in 1992 had grown to $80 billion by 1999 and $600 billion by early 2003.

Remember it was Barack Obama’s neighbor, the Rainbow Coalition in Chicago, run by Jesse Jackson that forced private lenders to make risky loans. The lender they were speaking of was Countrywide, which specialized in subprime lending and had a working relationship with ACORN who was represented by Barack Hussein Obama.

ACORN showed its colors again in 1991, by taking over the House Banking Committee room for two days to protest efforts to scale back the CRA. Obama represented ACORN in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 1994 suit against redlining.

Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Administration that greatly expanded the Community Reinvestment Act and laid the groundwork for the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac borne financial crisis we now confront. Barack Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans more aggressively.


Don’t expect to read about this in the "mainstream media," however, which generally views groups like ACORN as heroic champions of the poor, laws like the CRA as anti-discrimination laws, and places all of the blame for the subprime mortgage meltdown on greedy capitalists, especially mortgage brokers.



The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis.

One of two things must be true. Either the Democrats are unfathomable idiots, who ignorantly pursue ever more destructive policies despite decades of contrary evidence, or they understand the consequences of their actions and relentlessly carry on anyway because they somehow benefit.

First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

Cloward and Piven were inspired by Saul Alinski who also was a guiding light for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, among others.

ACORN's voter rights tactics follow the Cloward-Piven Strategy:

* 1. Register as many Democrat voters as possible, legal or otherwise and help them vote, multiple times if possible.

* 2. Overwhelm the system with fraudulent registrations using multiple entries of the same name, names of deceased, random names from the phone book, even contrived names.

* 3. Make the system difficult to police by lobbying for minimal identification standards.



Conspicuous in their absence are any connections at all with any other group, moderate, or even mildly leftist.

They are all radicals, firmly bedded in the anti-American, communist, socialist, radical leftist mesh.
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Stunning.
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Stunning.
Easily stunned, are you not??
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I don't think you understand the source/cause.
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Your blaming a President who held office 30 years ago for a bill that could have been revised or amended by any number of Presidents/Congress since then?

Let's blame Jefferson or Madison for addressing this in the Constitution.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Your blaming a President who held office 30 years when there have been any number of Presidents/Congresses who could have amended this Bill?
The way i read it was that he was saying this is where it started. Your right it could have been dealt with but lets not kid ourselves, repubs didn't because they would be made out to be racist or insensitive to lower income people. Dems didn't because that would hurt them in the eyes of the people they depend on for a large portion of their base.

Government failed us period.
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Your blaming a President who held office 30 years ago for a bill that could have been revised or amended by any number of Presidents/Congress since then?

Let's blame Jefferson or Madison for addressing this in the Constitution.

You're being reasonable. Now just cut that out.
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You're being reasonable. Now just cut that out.
Why don't you two get a room??
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I don't think you understand the source/cause.
The explain, I'm all ears.

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Your blaming a President who held office 30 years ago for a bill that could have been revised or amended by any number of Presidents/Congress since then?

Let's blame Jefferson or Madison for addressing this in the Constitution.
Not really blaming Carter although that sorriest of SOBs deserves plenty of blame laid at his feet over a wide assortment of misdeeds, not just when he was president but up until today.

I did point out the root cause and the thinking behind the actions taken that brought about the problem.

Can you grasp that??
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The explain, I'm all ears.


I am stunned that someone so obviously intelligent as yourself would resort to repeating the kind of disjointed babbling that began this thread and a couple of your others. Its mind-numbingly complicated and seems intended to create the singular "fact" of Obama's corruption simply by overwhelming everyone with a bunch of gobbledygook rather than responsibly tracing a single episode of anything beyond the usual cronysim of politics.

In other words, we aren't buying the throw everything at them and see what sticks approach. At least not when done with the suffocating wackiness from these impossible to decipher "articles."
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I am stunned that someone so obviously intelligent as yourself would resort to repeating the kind of disjointed babbling that began this thread and a couple of your others. Its mind-numbingly complicated and seems intended to create the singular "fact" of Obama's corruption simply by overwhelming everyone with a bunch of gobbledygook rather than responsibly tracing a single episode of anything beyond the usual cronysim of politics.

In other words, we aren't buying the throw everything at them and see what sticks approach. At least not when done with the suffocating wackiness from these impossible to decipher "articles."
Talk about disjointed babbling, look in the mirror.

Now what is it that you can't decipher, I'll explain it to you??

Q: Why are there so few real Barack Obama jokes?
A: Most of them are true stories.

Q. What do Obama and Osama have in common?
A. They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.

As far as I'm personally concerned, the jury is still out, I'm still waiting for elections results from the other seven states in which Barack claimed to have campaigned.

Face the facts lawgator, you have been burned!!




















Don't feel lonely though, Mickey Mouse voted for Obama in Colorado and probably several other states as well.
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Another factor that contributed heavily to the current crisis was the Barney Frank immigration reform bills, when coupled with the original "Communities Reinvestment Act" made a sure fire recipe for a disastrous money drain on the American economy.

(history of American immigration law.)


Am I the only one on this board who is distressed by the fact that an arrogant radical Muslim is far more likely to get an American entry visa than an humble Christian Serb or South African Boer???? And remember the government of the USA had as much to do with the present conditions in South Africa, Kosovo, Zimbabwe and other places as anyone else.

"It is much easier to resist in the beginning than in the end." Lanardo Da Vinci

At least since 1940, DiPippo explains, the U.S. had had the power to reject immigration applicants based on their beliefs. But under the changes in the law included in the 1990 INA, with regard to radical Muslims, only actual terrorism or membership in terrorist organizations was sufficient to prevent a person's entry. This remained the case until after the 9/11 attack, when the Patriot Act effectively removed Barney Frank's amendment from the immigration law, and made it possible to deny immigration status to people who had spoken in favor of terrorism.

Then Clinton gave a waiver to anyone with an Argentine passport and there was a steady stream of middle easterners flocking to Buenos Aires, buying a passport from corrupt officials and then disappearing into America.
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Oh there's one other cost of illegals that has gone generally unnoticed. Calling the Old Media: Five Million Illegals Have Illegal Mortgages in U.S.A.! (read the link to see how immigrants were used to defraud lenders.)

(In 1965 a Democrat Controlled Congress under President Lyndon Johnson passed the concept of "chain" immigration into law. A later commission named the Hesburgh Commission convened during Ronald Reagan's first term, found that this concept statistically allowed each single immigrant to bring into this country 84 of his family members. Of course, all these people have to live somewhere making such fraudulent mortgages quite attractive.

What illegal struggling to survive is going to pass up a free house that he can move into without having to present any identification, proof of employment, financial history or even a down payment?

This story should be in every paper and on every TV news cast. Yet it isn't.)
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MALKIN: Illegal immigrant factor

(A July report showed that in 7 of the 10 metro areas with the highest foreclosure rates, Hispanics represented at least one-third of the population; in two of those areas - Merced and Salinas-Monterey, Calif. - Hispanics comprised half the population.

The amnesty-promoting National Council of La Raza and its Development Fund received millions in federal funds to "counsel" their constituents on obtaining mortgages with little to no money down; the group almost got a $10-million earmark attached for itself in one of the housing bills passed in the spring.)

Once again its helpful to provide some maps and stats: Look at the interactive map where those who owe more than the house is worth. Notice any similarities to the unemployment picture and concentrations of illegals.

A good place for detailed accounts of mortgage fraud is a blog called Mortgage Fraud which bills itself as "the central clearing house on mortgage fraud schemes indictments and prevention"

Calling the Old Media: Five Million Illegals Have Illegal Mortgages in U.S.A.! Our source for that story, a retired agent from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, stands by those numbers. A person from Housing and Urban Development contacted KFYI to tell us the number was inaccurate, that there were only 2.3 million mortgages held by immigrants, so there was no way that 5 million illegals could have mortgages.
However, HUD cries foul over illegal immigrant mortgage data

Despite Illegal Status, Buyers Get Home Loans

N.Va. Foreclosures Form 'Ring of Fire' But drive with Thompson through the hardest-hit areas of Prince William County -- the epicenter of the region's foreclosure trouble -- and the loss of value has been precipitous. By and large, those properties are concentrated in lower-priced areas and Zip codes where many immigrants bought homes in recent years, often with subprime mortgages and other risky arrangements that required little down payment or documentation. In Northern Virginia and especially Prince William, many buyers were Hispanic immigrants.

And now we have the mortgage crisis, (do not pass go, do not collect $200)gs which has sent a shock wave through Wall Street and panicked world financial markets like no other since the stock market crash of 1929. But this is a problem created in Washington long ago. It originated with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), signed into law in 1977 by President Jimmy Carter. The CRA was Carter's answer to a grassroots activist movement started in Chicago, and forced banks to make loans to low income, high risk customers. PhD economist and former Texas Senator Phil Gramm has called it: "a vast extortion scheme against the nation's banks."

Immigration Counters )cool site, click that one)gs tells it by the numbers.

Sadly Illegal Immigrants To Get Next Bailout.
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I'm convinced gsvol isn't an actual person and is just some kind of posting script for babble spouted by neocons.
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I'm convinced gsvol isn't an actual person and is just some kind of posting script for babble spouted by neocons.
That wouldn't be out of character for you since you seem to be convinced of a lot of things that have little or no basis in reality.
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I'm convinced gsvol isn't an actual person and is just some kind of posting script for babble spouted by neocons.
Neocon? Talk about an overused term.
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